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Let's call this Suns Preview Lite, or Suns Pseudo Preview. This one is for the rest of the SB Nation. Alex, Trevor, Panama and I will soon come up with something much more verbose and impressive in the coming weeks. So, allow this to serve as that little hit to keep you from full on Suns withdrawal.

Team Name: Phoenix Suns
Last Year's Record: 54-28
Key Losses: Amare Stoudemire, Leandro Barbosa, Louis Amundson
Key Additions: Hedo Turkoglu, Hakim Warrick, Josh Childress,

1) What significant moves were made in the offseason?

On the court, Amare Stoudemire signed with the Knicks, Leandro Barbosa was traded to the Raptors for Hedo Turkoglu, Hakim Warrick and Josh Childress were added.

Off the court, Robert Sarver leveled the front office. Gone are Steve Kerr and David Griffin. In their place is former player agent Lon Babby as President of Basketball Operations and Lance Blanks as General Manager. Other additions to the front office include John Treloar at new Director of Player Personnel.


2) What are the team's biggest strengths?

Collective Depth, Experience, Flexibility, The Bench, Underdog Status, Team Chemistry.

Collective depth could also be called selective depth. The Suns may be able to go 10-11 deep but said depth may not be in all the right places. Nevertheless, the Suns return one of the best second units in the NBA and have enhanced it with the additions of Childress and Warrick.

The additions of Josh Childress and Hedo Turkoglu allow Steve Nash to play off the ball more. The idea is that with Turk's ball handling skills, the Suns can utilize Nash's high shooting percentage to make up some of the scoring they lost with Amare Stoudemire's departure. The move also allows Nash to rest more and reduce the normal wear and tear he obtains during the normal 82 game season at PG. Childress can play at the 2 or 3 and provides a solid bench presence to spell either Jason Richardson or Grant Hill.

Last season the Suns weren't picked to win anything. The experts said the usual: Phoenix was too soft on the boards, they couldn't play defense, yet they didn't have enough firepower to run like the old SSOL days. Alvin Gentry and Co. responded to the predictions by creating a hybrid version of the D'Antoni led Suns that ran wild when they could, yet also continued use of the pick and roll. Robin Lopez's development allowed for his use as an inside scoring option.

3) What are the team's weaknesses?

Size, Front Court Depth, Age

Robin Lopez is a curly headed beast who made huge strides last season after overcoming some early season injuries and the infamous "glass door" incident. But he has spine problems that may prove to be chronic and catastrophic to the Suns. If he goes down for any significant length of time, the season could easily go sideways for Phoenix. Then again, they made a nice playoff push without his presence last season. Let's just say life is easier with a healthy Lopez.

The same goes for Grant Hill and Steve Nash, both who reside on the wrong side of 30 continue to defy age and the experts by playing 80 something games per season. Significant injuries (knockin on wood) could make things pretty dang difficult for the Suns.

Amare Stoudemire was correctly deemed to be a defensive liability, however he brought down 20+ points and 9 boards a game last season. No one expects that individually from Hedo Turkoglu, Channing Frye or Hakim Warrick. The Suns have once again imparted the "rebound by committee" plan due to their lack of enforcers up front. Rookie Gani Lawal and Dwayne Jones should help out in the dirtworker role yet both of them are offensive liabilities at this point.

4) What are the goals for this team?

It begins with acclimating the new acquisitions and finding the chemistry that catapulted the Suns into the 3 seed of the playoffs then Western Conference Finals last season. A run at the post season is a reasonable goal for them. But a deep run in a reloaded Western Conference will be difficult. But if we've learned anything from last season, this team is capable of nearly anything when running on all cylinders.

5) What Could Have the Biggest influence on the upcoming season?

Chemistry. Injuries. Size

There are a flood of "if's" surrounding the Phoenix Suns entering the 2010-11 season. If Robin Lopez's back gives him trouble and results in significant time off the court, the Suns could be in for a long season due to their lack of front court size. If Steve Nash misses significant time, is Goran Dragic ready to step in to the starters shoes? If the new guys cannot play together, make up for Amare's loss... if, if, if...Bad news all around. That's the pessimistic and "expert" view. On the other hand, the new guys know how to play the game, it's up to Alvin Gentry to mix and match. After some experimentation, this team could be a very tough match up for a lot of teams. Gentry even believes they are better than last season. I think he may be right.

Predicted Regular Season Record: 51-31

Final Thought:

BRING ON THE SEASON BOYS!!! There's a whole mess of local and overseas Suns fans who CANNOT WAIT to see how this squad performs come tip off.


This preview is part of the annual mega Internet-wide preview series organized and hosted by Celtics Blog. Be sure to check out the other Suns previews at: SB Nation Arizona and Valley of the Suns.

Editor’s Note: This is ValleyoftheSuns’ contribution to the fifth annual “NBA Blog Previews” put on by CelticsBlog. Team Name: Phoenix Suns Last Year’s Record: 54-28 Key...

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Oh yes, the boys are all back in town now. Or least have been back in town at some point - Jared Dudley and Steve Nash weren't around today.

But it was GREAT to see Jason Richardson back on the court and boy did he look sharp. In the playoffs last year he stepped up his game performance-wise but more importantly he just seemed to take on a bit more of a leadership role and was less the new-guy on the team and more the confident stud he had been earlier in his career.

What I saw today seemed like the summer break never happened in that regard.

Jason's entering his second full season with the Suns and with plenty of new guys behind him in the tenure line he and Grant and Jared and perhaps even Goran are looking like the emotional core of the team. Oh and that Nash guy too. He's OK.

I was a tad concerned that Jason would be upset about his expiring contract situation and not happy that team brought in Childress on a long-term deal. No signs of that at all - he looked great and happy to be here.

Now that Amare is gone (and missed), there's a void that Jason can step into on the offensive end. Here's the full write up of the interview with him today but the key quote to me was this:


Jason Richardson Back In Phoenix Relishing The Underdog Role - SB Nation Arizona
Jason said he doesn't see any more pressure on himself to score with Amare gone, but he does hope to be more of an option for the team on the offensive end.

"I'm ready for that. Most of my career, I was always a one or two option. It wouldn't be nothing new if I could go back to that role having the ball in my hands, getting the ball to score baskets and being one of the main guys to score baskets for us," he said.


Check out the entire thing though since there's more in there about his contract and his shoes that have an embroidered picture of him missing a dunk.

Unfortunately, we didn't get to see Hedo on the court today but he was there and in workout clothes watching. Maybe tomorrow, I really want to see him up-close. I think he's the kind of player you have to watch carefully to full appreciate. And the more I think about it, the more I think that how he fits in to this team (on and off the court) will dictate how far the Suns go. That and Robin. It always comes back to Robin.

Robin was in a pretty good mood today in fact. Sure, he got mad after missing a shot or when his team lost but he was clearly happy to have his pal Goran around. They were buddied up quite a bit.

Goran is the Robin Whisperer.

Robin had a good stretch there early when he hit several open mid-range shots, was great on the glass, scored in the post and even lead a fast break resulting in a sweet pass to a streaking Earl Clark. Let me tell you, Robin pushing the ball up the floor doesn't look nearly as strange as you might think and his hunched over posture comes in handy when he's speed dribbling in the open court.

Garret Siler looked a bit better. Still big. Still slow. But rebounded, set huge screens, blocked some shots, scored easily against smaller defenders. Pretty much what you expect. 

Everyone else seemed good and with media day on Monday and training camp next week the intensity seemed just a bit more amped up. You aren't the only ones getting excited for the season.


In other BIG NBA news, Jarron Collins signed with the Clippers and Brian Scalabrine is going with the Bulls. And who said all the big free agent moves were over once LeBron Decided?


Dear 2010-11 NBA Season, please hurry.  That is all.

I'll be honest - if you don't like statistics, this might be painful to read.  If you're looking for a quick read?  This might not be the post for you.

In light of our recent statistical conversations and because I can taste the season right around the corner I took a plunge into some numbers.

I mean, we've talked about defense, we've effectively killed the rebounding conversation this past year, we've talked positional logjams...  yet with all of that, my thoughts this off-season continually turn to the new players and how they will improve the depth of our roster.  I'm excited especially about Josh Childress and Hakim Warrick and the explosiveness they will add to our bench - and that all got me thinking... Just how much better will our bench really be?  Will the off-season moves make up for the loss of Amare Stoudemire?  Will it all translate to another deep playoff run?

Since training camp hasn't even started and a game hasn't been played to analyze... I turned to the stats, and one in particular: PER, John Hollinger's Player Efficiency Rating.

What I found was interesting (well for me anyways... you at least might enjoy my colorful tables and pretty pictures), and call me Captain Obvious or Redundant - but I am officially in all my blog power predicting that our bench will be the best bench ever (at least statistically) to wear a Suns uniform, without a doubt.  Jump it.


Let's get down to the dirty dirty.

PER (Player Efficiency Rating):

Definition: In a nutshell it is a generic rating of a player's per-minute productivity.  In his own words Hollinger summarizes, "The PER sums up all a player's positive accomplishments, subtracts the negative accomplishments, and returns a per-minute rating of a player's performance."  Each 'positive accomplishment' (i.e. FG made-steal-block-assist yatta yatta) is assigned a point value and the same with the negative.  It's all added together - adjusted for pace, and viola! We have a mechanism for comparing player productivity regardless of discrepancies in their minutes played.

DISCLAIMER: PER has it's flaws - it is definitely not perfect or unequivocally accurate. (I am not advocating that it is perfect so please don't comment and tell me I'm a big fat doo doo head for giving it so much attention here - remember it's the off-season, DUH.)

You see - Albert Einstein and John Hollinger are a lot a like in certain ways... kind of sort of.


Albert Einstein spent his entire life searching for a unifying theory that would simplify the many complexities of Physics - and hey!  John Hollinger spent some time developing a unifying theory that would simplify the many complexities of basketball statistics...  the biggest difference besides working in very different fields - is that Einstein died trying to find his theory (and no one since has been able to complete his task) while Hollinger just kind of made do with what he had.

Criticism of PER:

There are a lot, but I'm only worried about a couple.

1) DEFENSE - While PER incorporates some defensive accomplishments like blocks and steals - it doesn't reliably represent good defensive players because there's no accurate way to quantify some of the things done on defense.  So some players who are known to be defensive specialists often have a deceivingly low PER. 

2) INTANGIBLES - Science has not yet figured out a way to quantify intangible factors, so until they do, PER will be incomplete and video games will continue to be the only place that this problem is non-existent.  Factors like determination, cohesion, defensive awareness, court vision, leadership, clutch performing, etc. really  do have an impact on a player's value and on the outcome of games and seasons.

Keep these major criticisms in mind when we get into the playoff analysis in bit.

For more info on PER... look it up yourself you lazy bum.

SUNS Deep Playoff Runs and PER:

Now the Suns as we all know hold the title of something like, 'the most winningestest team to win a whole lot and be in the playoffs all time and be super-fun to watch and root for but to never to have won a championship" bla bla bla we know the history.  Well I want to focus on what kind of teams we've had historically when we were able to make deep playoff runs - something I'm hoping our new roster will be able to do again this year.

So as not to spark a raging debate in the comment section - for the purposes of this study I will define 'deep playoff run' as follows,

Deep Playoff Run: Making it to the Conference Finals or further.

By that definition - the Phoenix Suns have had a total of 9 deep playoff runs including 7 WCF appearances and 2 NBA Finals appearances.


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So being the bored off-season fan that I am I decided to break down the average team PER for each of those Suns playoff teams and the PER of their opponents - just to see what I could find.  The following are my results.


2009-10 WCF - SUNS v. LAKERS (2-4)

Let me first explain how I whipped these charts up - some of it is pretty obvious.  The last two columns of each table divide up the team's starters from their top 5 bench players (the 2nd unit).   This is my attempt to find out just exactly how good our bench has been and if it has impacted previous playoff teams to the extent that I'm hoping this year's team might.   More on this later.

The Total is just just a generic average of the PER of every player on the team's playoff roster.

The Real Total is my discretionary PER average which includes the starters and the 2nd unit - no garbage-time players are included in this one.  My general rule of thumb was to exclude players who played less than 50 minutes total in the playoffs.  So for example - In the tables below Clark, Collins (I excluded Collins because I knew he played very limited minutes in the WCF though he had contributed up to that point a small amount) and D.Jones are all excluded from the REAL TOTAL for the Suns while likewise J.Powell, Walton, and Adam Morrison's numbers are excluded from the Lakers' RT.   This stat was interesting because, of the 9 total playoff series analyzed  - the team with the higher RT won 5 times - and in a majority of the exceptions there are very obvious PER Criticisms that would explain why the Suns lost despite having the higher team PER RT.


I know this is still fresh in everyone's mind and the pain is still lingering - so I apologize. 

The PER numbers in this series really bring to light all the predictions that took place before it started.   You can see that obviously in the starting rotation it would appear that the Suns have the better 5 man squad - but this is where we get a taste of our first example of the PER Criticisms. 

(Disclaimer - I hate the Lakers.  I just wanted to make that clear)

Everyone predicted that D.Fisher was the weak link - his PER certainly suggests that he is not on the same level as the guards in the Suns line-up, but Fisher through his long career of winning championships has accumulated vast amounts of intangible skill points.  The guys is a leader - he's clutch - he's feisty - he's determined.  All these things don't show up in the PER calculations.  Same case for Ron Artest, he's hands down one of the best defenders in the game and his PER is deceptively low for his actual game productivity. 

Then there's always the Kobe factor - his tangibles and intangibles are constantly compared to Michael Jordan's, that should explain a lot when it comes to evaluating his actual productivity and impact on his team.

By the numbers, our bench was amazing and should have dominated the Lakers bench, and it did on some occasions perform to the numbers, but remember that Kobe played something like 77 minutes a game rarely was it ever our bench v. theirs.

In the end - the intangible factors came through for the Lakers (THAT INCLUDES LUCK, re: Kobe air ball and Artest put back), Fisher hit the big shots - Kobe found the 'zone' offensively, and their 3pt shooting which had been terrible all season long decided to show up

So what did the PER teach us?  The team with the better RT won.


2005-06 WCF SUNS v. MAVERICKS (2-4)


The numbers in this series don't lie or deceive.  The Suns undoubtedly had the superior starting lineup - but the Mavericks had Dirk.  28.1 PER - the dude was lights out all season and that didn't change in this series, he was a German en fuego.  But that alone isn't what beat the Suns in this series.  It was the Dallas bench and overall team depth.  Their bench was relentless and D'Antoni's notorious 7 deep roster really is to blame for this series loss.

"Our guys fought as hard as they could; we just ran out of steam," said Suns coach Mike D'Antoni, who ended his postgame comments in tears. "Third quarter, we just got bogged down and couldn't score."

The story each game was the same - PHX jumps to a huge lead and then drops the ball in the 2nd half.

"You can't just tail off every second half the way we did and not expect it to mean something," said Nash, who clearly was fatigued throughout the series.


Again - the team with the superior RT wins.


2004-05 WCF - SUNS v. SPURS (1-4)


The Numbers again tell the story.   Tim Duncan happened.  No Bench happened.  Also - No defense happened.

In the last game -

Led by Nash, the run-and-gun Suns topped the NBA in scoring this season. However, they were last in defense, the staple of the Spurs. Phoenix was held below 106 points just twice in the postseason, both times by San Antonio.

"On the whole, we're a little better than them defensively, so we had to make those stops and we made them in the third and fourth quarter that allowed us to have an opportunity to win the game," Popovich said.


Again, the better team RT-wise won.


1992-93 NBA FINALS - SUNS v. BULLS (2-4)9293f_medium



Well, now that I've got you all in tears because of the above picture - let's get to the point.

Here - the numbers simply get it wrong.  No doubt this is one of the most talented and one of the deepest Suns teams in franchise history, even Paul Westphal truly believed they were the more talented team, and they were - on paper... but they ran into one small problem.  They were facing Michael Jordan and the Bulls.  Jordan averaged 41 PPG FOR THE SERIES.  

PER-wise, you can also argue that B.Cartwright's 8.3 is deceiving given his defensive strengths - but that doesn't even matter. 

This is an exception series because of a Superstar - Michael Jordan.

1989-90 WCF - SUNS v. BLAZERS (2-4)


From here on out (and by that I mean as we travel further back in time) I'm really venturing out of my comfort zone.  Though I know for a fact I've been a Suns fan my entire life (since 85') and watched games on TV with my dad when I was very young, the 1993 Finals is the first time I actually remember watching games and knowing who was playing.  So anything earlier than that I'm really at a loss to remember in order to dig deeper into the facts and non-statistical factors that might explain these PER discrepancies.  

I was able to find some clips on youtube - this pregame clip alludes to the fact that the Blazers had won the 'squeekers' (close games) while the Suns were winning blow out games.  To win the squeekers - you know there are some intangibles at work, often luck or it comes down to hustle plays/turnovers or it seems it was foul trouble for stars like Tom Chambers that might have contributed to the PHX loss here.

So though the PER suggests PHX is the better team again - it's obviously not Gospel.


1988-89 WCF - SUNS v. LAKERS (0-4)


This one looked like a no-contest... especially when the Lakers and Magic are hitting shots like the one @ 1:00 - check it out. RIDICULOUS.



1983-84 WCF - SUNS v. LAKERS (2-4)


I'm guessing some of the same went on here... with that Lakers starting lineup I wouldn't cry if they beat my team either.   Couldn't find any footage or whatnot for this one.  If you know anything you'd like to contribute to any one of these series feel free to punch it in the comment section.

I did find this sweet Picture of my boy Walter Davis -


I still think my Larry Nance impression is pretty good too...


Yes.  That's my head.  Yes. Those are Larry Nance's sexy legs, not mine.   And Yes - it is awesome. 


1978-79 WCF - SUNS v. SONICS (3-4)


Another disclaimer - from 1980 and earlier the PER stats get sketchier and sketchier because certain statistics had not been recorded until certain dates (the 3pt shot didn't exist til 79', turnovers weren't recorded til 77', O-Reb, steals, and blocked shots not recorded til 73').

There's also something else i noticed while examining the minutes played by each team.  For one - they didn't keep track of who started games - so I'm really just guessing by total minutes played as to who started and who came off the bench.  But with that being said - it was interesting to me to see that nearly every single player on these rosters was averaging double digit minutes per/game.  If there were 14 guys on a roster - all 14 were putting in work most of the time.  With this being the case - the more accurate PER total to compare for these series is probably the regular TOTAL.  13.97 - 13.61 is pretty close - and the fact that this series went to 7 games and was tight down to the very last second support the idea that these teams were pretty evenly matched.

Check this out and remember, "basketball is the most emotional sport!"


1975-76 NBA FINALS - SUNS v. CELTICS (2-4)


Last but not least was our first Finals appearance - the shot heard round the world series.  Again, I didn't spend too much time analyzing this one because it really is hard picking apart teams from 35 years ago when the playing style/rules etc. are all different.  Defense was played different - game plans drawn up differently.  But again looking at the PER regular totals for each team - the suggestion is once again that these teams were pretty evenly matched and knowing the history of the series, it was a very competitive series all the way to the end.  


(pssst - I kind of got tired of analyzing this older teams too if you couldn't already tell)




I made up this litte chart for this years team. Here are a few contingencies I'm basing these PER numbers on:

  1. Nash, Hill, and Richardson play at about the same level as year
  2. Robin Lopez turns into the productive post player we are all hoping (Jumping from 17.6 to 22)
  3. Hedo Turkoglu is the Hedo from his ORL Finals days (I took his PER from that year)
  4. Channing Frye and Goran Dragic continue to marginally improve (15-15.5 and 14.8-15.5 repectively)
  5. Jared Dudley comes back even better with a new part of his game improved like last year (13.6- 14) though I am worried about his minutes given our positional logjam. 
  6. I plainly took Warrick and Childress' career PER averages - but I'm betting that they will improve in our system and on this team.
  7. I have no idea what to expect from the youngins Clark/Lawal/Janning/Jones/Silas.  Maybe you guys can help. But their PER really isn't all that important unless someone above them gets injured.

So lets wrap this up - remember my questions ALL the way back at the beginning?

Just how much better will our bench really be?    

With all of these 'Ifs' and speculations above, I'm predicting the best bench in Phoenix Suns history and a playoff worthy Starting lineup. 

Will the off-season moves make up for the loss of Amare Stoudemire?

Looking at the PER - NO.  That's the answer plain and simple.  Amare was an offensive scoring machine and the PER stat is very kind to creatures of his nature.  I've tweaked this year's projected PERs as much as I homerly can without feeling to guilty of complete bias, but even so last year's starting squad is still the better with a PER of 18.48 to this year's 18.28.  

BUT - the bench will improve significantly from 14.36 to 15.38 - more than a whole point increased.  What does that mean?  Who knows if that will help heal the void - we'll have to wait and see for that answer.  Statistically - it looks good.

Will it all translate to another deep playoff run?

Per the PER data - this team will definitely have enough talent (or at least enough productivity per minute) to hang with other playoff teams.  In my mind at least - it's now just a question as to whether or not they can put it all together as a team on a consistent basis.  

If all these stars align and barring any serious injuries I am more than willing to put my huevos on the table and predict that this team will make yet another 'deep playoff run' to add to the Phoenix history books.  


Eutychus. OUT>

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