The Suns have started the season 1-2 despite leading in all 3 of their games in the second half. This week, they play four games, with three of those on the road. The only home game this week (through Sunday) is hosting a young, upstart Cleveland team.

Here's a couple of links on the Suns. Don't be surprised by the tenor.

One person's weekly NBA power rankings have the Suns in the bottom five of the NBA, where they belong after last night's debacle.

Hoopsworld points out how the Suns are struggling with their new pieces.

The first few weeks of the NBA season are crazy and not always predictable or sustainable. Let's use this thread to talk about random Suns stuff as well as random stuff throughout the rest of the league.

Have at it...


Remember that time the Suns said they would play hard every night and they would compete and fight and play good defense? Good times at the podium.

On the court, however, it's been a complete embarrassment through three games.

Shots might not be falling in a not-so-unusual early season kind of way, but despite all the talk about focus and effort this team has yet to put together a 48-minute stretch where they've demonstrated consistent effort and focus.

Why is that? Do they not actually realize how little top flight talent they have and how the only way they are going to stay in games (let alone beat teams like Orlando) is to follow the lead and words of Luis Scola and play hard for the full 48?


Here's some choice quotes from the Suns coach and players:


"We played really well in the first half and then we went through the motions and started exchanging baskets. We let them get it going. They are playing at home and had the momentum and then they started making big shot after big shot." - Scola

Phoenix Suns take step back against Orlando Magic

"You’ve got to believe in the players and they’ve got to believe in what you’re doing and continue to work," Gentry said. "At some stage, it comes together. It’s not anything that’s easy to do, but this is what we have. This is our team. I think that we’re going to be a very good basketball team at some stage."

And some other recaps of this shit show.

NBA scores: Knicks beat Sixers, Lakers finally win - SBNation.com
The Suns are horribly awfully bad, but Glen Davis had a second straight good game, Arron Afflalo was a beast and J.J. Redick did work off the bench. The Magic: not nearly as bad as we thought they'd be! (Also, the Suns: exactly as bad as we thought they'd be.)

Phoenix Suns Implode In Orlando! Suns 94 - Magic 115 - Sun-N-Gun - A Phoenix Suns Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More
This was an awful loss for the Suns as they had control of the game throughout the first 30 minutes, and to watch them just collapse in that fashion is just nothing short of an ugly scene.

Magic 115, Suns 94: Big third quarter propels Orlando to win - Orlando Pinstriped Post
All told, Afflalo scored 10 of his 22 points in the crucial third period, with Davis contributing 14 of his 22. Foul trouble kept Davis off his game in the first half; though he logged 15 minutes, he missed seven of his nine shots.

Orlando Magic 115, Phoenix Suns 94 -- Snowball beatdown
Jared Dudley, Markieff Morris and Sebastian Telfair are on the list of players that still haven’t looked comfortable on the floor.

I don't have high expectations for this team this season (35 wins) and I'm not surprised they are struggling early in the season. But lack of consistent effort is not acceptable. Period.

Bad teams in Phoenix always struggle holding on to fans. But bad teams that don't put up a fight don't deserve any (fans).

Some other useful links:

Next up...


The Suns put on an embarrassing display in Orlando, giving up 40 points to the Magic and blowing a 14-point lead. The Suns fall to 1-2 on the season and earn their first road loss of the year. No rest for the horrendous, as the Suns face the Heat on Monday.

When: November 4th, 4:00 p.m. MST

Where: Amway Center, Orlando FL

Watch: Locally: FSNAZ; Outside AZ: NBA League Pass

After squeaking past the Pistons on Friday night, the Suns face a Magic team that is without Dwight Howard and a team that could end up being the worst team in the Eastern Conference. Although the game against Detroit didn't look necessarily clean, Phoenix still managed to hold on to their lead and get the win. The positive: Suns had five players in double figures, which is exactly the kind of effort they will have to produce in Orlando. The negative: Jared Dudley only had two points and besides Shannon Brown, the bench was almost nonexistent.

This game marks the beginning of three-game road trip on the East Coast against Orlando, Miami, and Charlotte. The Magic are coming into Sunday's game with some momentum after an impressive 102-89 win against the Denver Nuggets. The Suns can not take the Magic lightly and definitely need to take care of business against a team that has less talent on paper.

Key Match-ups:

Goran Dragic vs. Jameer Nelson - This matchup is clearly in favor of the Suns. Dragic has looked as good as advertised so far as the floor general in Phoenix and has put up good numbers in his first two games of the season. Nelson, on the other hand, has always seemed to be one of those third-tier point guard talents. Dragic should get the better of Nelson in this matchup on both sides of the court.

Luis Scola and Marcin Gortat vs. Glen Davis and Nikola Vucevic - For the sake of Orlando, who doesn't really own a Center, I'll just say the match-up is the Bigs of the Suns against the Bigs of the Magic. Anyway you want to say it, the Suns should be favored in the size department for this game. Gortat has looked like the double-double machine he can be so far and Scola has been the efficient post presence the Suns need him to be. Glen Davis had an impressive season opener, putting up 29 points and 10 rebounds against Denver, so Phoenix will have to keep Davis from controlling the paint.

Michael Beasley vs. Hedo Turkoglu - Can I call this one a push? Maybe a slight edge for Beasley? I think it's still too early to say that Beasley be that consistant scorer that the Suns need him to be. Now if you would have asked me who had the edge four years ago, it would have been Turkey-Glue, mainly because Beasley was a rookie then. If I had to call it, I'd say Beasley gets the better of Hedo and contributes significantly.

The Suns Bench vs. The Magic's Bench - This match-up will ultimately decide the outcome of this game. If J.J. Redick and the rest of Orlando's bench heat up and knock down their shots, the Magic will be tough to beat. If Shannon Brown and Wesley Johnson are on point, the Suns will win the game. I think it's obvious that bench production in crucial for both teams if they want the win.

The Bottom Line: The Suns should win this game. They hold advantages in almost every match-up and are clearly the more talented team on paper. We know in the NBA that any team can be beaten on any given night, but I would be of the surprised majority if Orlando came out on top in this one.

It would be easy to say that the Phoenix Suns’ 115-94 loss to the Orlando Magic on Sunday was a sign that Alvin Gentry’s team is in trouble this season. Maybe that’s true. Still, it...

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This game was tough to watch. It was gut wrenching and almost totally embarrassing. After leading at halftime by ten, the Suns were outscored in the second half by 31 points and had no answer for the Magic. Orlando absolutely cruised in the second half and won with the final score 115-94.

It's going to be a long season if the Suns let teams like the Magic score 115 points. J.J. Redick finished with 24 points off the bench and it seemed like he couldn't miss in that train wreck of a second half. Nikola Vucevic had a double-double with 18 points and 13 rebounds, Glen Davis had 22 points and 8 boards, Arron Afflalo ended the game with 22 points and E'Twaun Moore finished the game with 15 points.

If the Suns want to finish above 20 wins, they can't lose to teams like the Magic often. Has anybody seen Jared Dudley recently? The guy has disappeared. Dudley only managed to score 3 points and the Suns bench combined for 19 points. Those two ingredients make up a recipe for defeat. The other four starters for Phoenix actually had decent games, especially Luis Scola. Scola dropped 24 and snatched 7 rebounds. Marcin Gortat had as good of a game as I have ever seen him play by scoring 14, grabbing 11 rebounds, and getting 4 blocks.

Consider any momentum gained by the win against the Pistons stopped. Now the Suns go on to play the up and coming Miami Heat (heavy sarcasm). That one might be the scene of a murder if the Suns put up the same effort against LeBron James and his crew.

Final - 11.4.2012 1 2 3 4 Total
Phoenix Suns 33 23 20 18 94
Orlando Magic 26 20 40 29 115

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