Now that Amare has opted out, the next few days are going to be nuts. But that's OK, we've been through his a few times before at the trade deadline in February, last summer around draft time, the trade deadline in 2009 and the summer when KG almost came to Phoenix.
Interrupting the Amare fun to bring these updates on Fyre and former Sun Joe Johnson
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Another one bites the dust....I am going to laugh my ass off if LeBron stays in Cleveland or even if LeBron and Bosh go to Miami or Chicago together and leave New York and New Jersey and the Clippers out in the cold.
Oh, and don't sleep on Houston. I could totally see them making a hard push for Amare and they actually have some interesting pieces they could send back in a sign-and-trade. On the other hand, if you're the Suns do you do any deal with a Western Conference foe?
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VOTE OR DIE!!
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A really good look at which teams have how much cap space:
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The Spurs have to be the luckiest franchise ever...David Robinson. Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan's three. Now this...
But those crazy Spurs fans are upset....SMFH
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speaks errr tweets
Twitter / Amar'e Stoudemire: I opted out of my contract ...
I opted out of my contract with PHX. Can't wait to see what lies ahead. I had a blast with my teammates last season. What's Next !!
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Tweet from John Gambadoro of KTAR:
New developments - Houston Rockets interested in Amare Stoudemire. Would likely be a sign and trade with Luis Scola and Battier if it happens
HMMM. Think hard about that one.
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More from Gambadoro via tweet:
Based on my latest phone conversation it does not appear that the Amare Stoudemire will remain with the Phoenix Suns 7.40 P.M.
Amare won't settle for less than a 5 year deal, Phoenix not willing to go more then 4 years. Pat Riley flew to LA to meet with Amare tonite. 7.42 P.M.
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Twitter / Paul Coro: Sources repeatedly say Sto ...
Sources repeatedly say Stoudemire wants to be in Phx. One said he'd take a 5-yr deal if Phx offered it. Maybe at less than max $.
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More tweets from Gambo, who is evidently tied to Sarver:
Amare's first choice is to stay in Phoenix. But I am told he won't leave money on the table. Suns offer roughly 4/$84 - Max elsewhere 5/100. 9.00 P.M.
Plus Amare wants 6 yrs from Phx not 5-So unless Phx caves in to demands all it will take is max offer from Mia, NY, Chi or Houst (sign+trd). 9.00 P.M.
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Adrian Wojnarowrski: Miami Heat president Pat Riley and team officials are planning to meet Amar'e Stoudemire shortly after midnight ET Thursday in Los Angeles, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.Stoudemire is competing with Chris Bosh and Carlos Boozer to join Dwyane Wade with the Heat... The Suns have offered him a five-year maximum contract with injury protections in the fifth year. Nevertheless, Stoudemire has been slow to commit to Suns owner Robert Sarver, whose financial commitment to compete with the Western Conference elite has been unclear.
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More Wojo (tweet):
The Knicks want Amar'e Stoudemire to travel to New York over the weekend, but doubtful he makes it there until Monday, source says.
A bit different from Pat Riley flying to LA to talk with Stat, isn't it? Reminds me of "David Griffin can have an interview if he wants one."
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KTAR radio proudly reports Amare is still a Sun.
The NBA's Collective Bargaining Agreement is a strange animal. There's so many rules that's its hard to keep it all straight - which is why Sarver said that one of the top "skills" a new GM must have is working understanding of the CBA.
From the best I can gather, by reading Coon's FAQ on it, is this:
If the Suns have truly offered 5 total years (4-yr extension on top of next year's option year), then they have beaten the market by 4 mil.
Suns (before OR after opting out): about $104 mill for 5 yrs
Other teams: about $100 mil for 5 yrs
Keep reading for more detail.
Here are the rules that matter:
So, these are his options, as far as I can tell (assuming 5 years total, from both Suns and other teams).
Extension (only available TODAY, 6/30, because this is his opt-out deadline):
NEW Suns contract, with Bird Rights, starting 7/1 and later:
NEW contract from a DIFFERENT team, starting 7/1 and later:
Strangeness? A new Suns contract for 5 years is slightly better than a 4-yr extension on next season. So, given a 5-yr committment, he's financially better off re-signing with the Suns AFTER today.
Don't be surprised when Amare opts out, even if he still wants to re-sign with the Suns.
Paul Coro, this morning calling in to KTAR, said that the Suns and Amare were most likely laying ground work for a new contract to be signed AFTER tonight, than they were in trying to get an extension done today.
If Amare agrees to the extension today (he doesn't have to actually sign it till next spring but if he doesn't opt-out he's still committed to the Suns and off the market), then you know Sarver and Gentry are good salesmen and Amare really never wanted to entertain other offers at all.
If Amare opts out today, that doesn't mean the Suns are out of the picture as long as they're now willing to go 5 years. On 5 years, the Suns can still offer more money than anyone else. Amare might just want his ego stroked a little (he's never been on the market before) before re-signing. Kind of like Dirk in Dallas. And Paul Pierce in Boston. They just opted out yesterday, but still figure to re-sign with their teams. Getting wooed can be fun, I guess.