Phoenix Suns guard Steve Nash (13) drives against Chicago Bulls' Joakim Noah during the third quarter on an NBA basketball game Wednesday, Nov. 24, 2010, in Phoenix. (AP Photo/Matt York)

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Ugh.

36-26-22-17-10-4

No, that's not the sequence from LOST. And it was not discovered by Mr. Fibonacci.

That's the Suns' scoring totals in 4 quarters + 2 overtimes. And that's not gonna get it done. But how does this happen? Is Tom Thibodeau that good a defensive mind?

Or was something else at work too?

How do you not do the foul-to-give on Noah at the end of regulation? Noah held that ball till 1 second was left on the clock. Foul him! Make the Bulls score on a 1-2 second play, rather than 4 seconds.

How do you not force Rose into repeated defensive situations, forcing him to foul or allow the score? He had five fouls for forever!

How do you leave Hedo in the game when he's clearly hurting and refusing to do anything but pass it back out?

I understand how Gentry couldn't take Nash out after putting him back in at the 10:19 mark, but come on Alvin. Nash could barely move. He didn't drive to the hoop, couldn't put his legs into his jumpshot. Couldn't really do anything.

Is that the reason the Suns refused to put Rose into a tough defensive situation even once after his fifth foul? No probing drives to the basket in overtime, forcing the defense's hand. No hard screens to fight through.

The questions after this game are endless.

I hold Gentry partially accountable for this game. His substitutions did not work out. He was clearly trying to "hold on" by keeping Nash and Hedo in the game, and never planned on it going to 2 overtimes. But you have to be better than that.

I know, holding the coach accountable for players' lack of performance is wrong. 

Hakim Warrick was the player of the first half, with 23 easy points. After halftime? Nothing. Nada. Zilch. The Bulls contested the catch and packed the lane on the roll, both or either of which was enough to befuddle Warrick into nothingness.

And once that play was gone, Nash was on his own to create via probing and dribbling around till someone popped open. But his body seemed to refuse. He really couldn't drive. Was that Rose's suffocating defense? Nah. Nash should have been able to carve Rose, Deng or Noah up, but he couldn't for some reason.

And once those two options were gone, the Suns were in big trouble.

The Bulls caught a break in this one, for sure. But you've got to give them credit for fighting for it and taking it with a vengeance.

Derrick Rose was a monster (35 pts, 12 rebs, 7 assists), as was Joakim Noah (17 and 15). But we knew they would be, and the Suns could still win.

But the real difference, as I suspected earlier today, would be the supporting casts. 36 points from Korver and James Johnson was HUGE in keeping the Bulls within striking distance for Noah and Rose to close it out. 

The Suns' supporting cast in the second half? Nothing. Nada. Zilch.


Final - 11.24.2010 1 2 3 4 OT 1 OT 2 Total
Chicago Bulls 17 33 22 29 10 12 123
Phoenix Suns 36 26 22 17 10 4 115

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[Note by Seth Pollack, 11/24/10 11:12 PM MST ]

Not much to add. I need to go watch the game again on DVR, but the most frustrating thing I saw aside from getting out-worked the middle quarters and letting off the gas as the inability to take advantage of the switches and find the bigs in the post.

Here's what Warrick said about that specifically:

"They did a really good job. When they did switch the would try and bump and get a bigger guy out of there and a really good job of rotating. They left some shooters sometimes and we tried to make them pay. When teams do that against us we got to keep attacking."

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SBN AZ recap with more quotes:

Phoenix Suns Blow Early Lead To Chicago Bulls, Lose In Double OT 123-115 - SB Nation Arizona
"He (Goran Dragic) didn't play very good and as a result of that I have to play Steve (Nash) too many minutes. 48 minutes for Steve is too damn many," Gentry said about his backup point guard. Gentry also singled out Jared Dudley and Josh Childress for their lack of performance. Dragic, Childress and Dudley combined for only five points in the game.

Quote of the night:

"It's a loss. It's a bad loss but we're also 15 games into the season and we can't panic or do anything like that." - Alvin Gentry

This game sucked, but it would be a huge mistake to start making any radical changes because of it. There's a LOT of season left and this team is what it is. They will be good some nights and bad others. They are not good enough to be in the top of the West but they also shouldn't be bad enough to be in the lottery. Making panic moves have more of a chance at backfiring then making things better, especially this early in the season.

What is pretty clear now is why Gentry called Robin Lopez the second most important player on the team besides Steve Nash. Dudley said before the season that for the Suns to be a really good team they needed him playing at a near All-Star level. There's only so much you can do playing Hedo and Hakim and Frye as your three bigs and there's nothing on the bench that offers a better answer aside from the big guy with the frizzy hair. 

In the mean time, this group here needs to toughen up and play better and play harder and be more consistent on the defensive end. Gentry knows this.

"Like I told our guys, we can't become at team that has a reputation that just keep playing and you'll have an opportunity to get back in the game. We can't be that team."

Right now, the Suns are that team and they've got a lot of work to do to change that, but panic moves are not the answer.

Game Notes:

1st Qtr

  • Noah has the top-knot going
  • JRich posting up Rose early. SMART
  • Nash on Bogans, Hill on Rose as expected
  • OReb on 1st Bulls possession leads to wide open three
  • Noah trying to post up Channing finds out that Channing isn't as soft as they think
  • Suns running on rebounds....kind of makes that rebounding thing even more important, huh
  • Bulls put Deng on Frye so Noah doesn't have to guard him out on the perimeter so Frye's posts him up
  • Suns hardly running any pick and roll so far
  • Hedo D'd the crap out of Deng in the post
  • Suns up 17-6, getting easy looks. Time out, Bulls. 6:38
  • Frye 2-2 from three
  • Nash now on Korver
  • Nash doing his part to try and help with the rebounding. He's at least in the paint trying to mix it up and get in people's way
  • It's a lot easier rebound against this gues when they are playing three guards instead of Noah/Gibson
  • Wow, 31-11 already. Tired Bulls team. Thank you NBA schedule makers...for once
  • Asik in for Naoh. Some Turk on Turk action before Turkey Day! Except Hedo is out now as well...for the record, I didn't make up that dump Turk on Turk thing
  • Dudley fouls James Johnson w/ 1 sec left and then Clark fouls Asik w/ .4 on the missed FT. Gentry pissed
  • 36-17. Not a bad quarter of basketball...if you are into winning on both ends of the floor

2nd Qtr

  • Zero Suns turnovers. 14-10 TReb. 63.6% shooting. Not bad
  • For those that track these things, Goran is clean shaven. Not that you can tell when he's not
  • Suns ultra small ball with Warrick, Hedo, Dudley, Childress and Dragic on the floor. Bulls bigs are Asik, James Johnson and Deng so you know....nothing to wet the bed over
  • Bulls did a good job collapsing on that pick and roll but Goran still found Hedo for an open three that he air balled and then looked at his fingers checking for butter or oil or something
  • Dudley hits the three...watch out! Steak coming
  • Suns getting some OReb's which is nice. Asik picks up his 3rd foul already
  • Rose back in along with Scalabrine. Watch out now!
  • Rose was driving with Dragic trailing. Looked like Goran reached with both hands to foul to prevent a layup but somehow poked the ball away. Still counts as a steal
  • James Johnson, how the Bulls drafted one place after Earl Clark, is playing very well
  • 3rd foul on Frye. Tough call. Looked like he was trying to get out of the way but got ran into while standing in the circle
  • Bulls have cut the lead to 19. Dragic not playing well at all, seems hesitant
  • Warrick's been kind of limping around and favoring an ankle. Playing through it
  • Both teams pissed at the refs. Good sign of a tightly called game going both ways. Foul calls almost even
  • Sweet lob from Nash to Warrick when Noah tried to trap him on the pick and roll!
  • Lead down to 15. 55-40
  • Johnson, 7pts and 4 Reb goes to bench for Deng. Good news for Suns
  • Keeping Rose away from the rim for the most part...he's hitting some outside shots but you live with that
  • Bulls bench outplayed Suns bench in the 2nd quarter but Suns starters killing Bulls starters
  • Wait what? 23 points for Warrick in the half! 7-8 shooting and 9-10 from the line. Those are Amare numbers right there...including the 3 rebounds
  • Noah's hair scrunchy fell out causing a hair emergency. Fixed now.
  • Deng just destroyed Childress of the dribble for a drive and dunk. Not a great way to finish the quarter.
  • 62-50 Suns. Bulls won the 2nd qtr 33-26. So much for defense

3rd Qtr

  • Well, well, well. We'll see if the 1st qtr Suns come out or the 2nd qtr Suns. Suns can make a run and break the game back open we could be in for garbage time 4th, otherwise a dog fight. Next 5 minutes key.
  • Was that too obvious? I'm trying to get better at my "obvious sports commentary" skills.
  • Just saw Kurt Thomas joking w/ Suns training staff. Guessing he wants to come back and get some of that magic finger goodness
  • Suns not playing w/ the same swagger they were to start the game. Bulls are though so that's good
  • Damn ugly offensive possession for the Bulls results in a bad shot that missed and was easily rebounded by Chicago while Suns were staring at the clouds. GET THE BALL
  • Bulls just fighting harder for the loose balls
  • Threes no longer falling for Suns
  • Channing for three!!!
  • Not sure why Noah still thinks he can attack Frye. Hasn't worked yet for him
  • Good, patient basketball take advantage of Rose on Hill after the switch. Post him up. Re-post to get better position. Score. Simple but effective.
  • Suns have been running more Nash/Hill picks and rolls then I've seen before
  • And Hill abuses Rose in the post again. Spin move and layup this time. They might want to try and different defensive plan
  • I hate when the Suns do this. On the switch, Nash has Noah on him and Frye has Rose but instead of posting up Rose w/ Frye, Nash just iso's Noah for awhile before trying some fancy lob to Warrick. Just post Frye up on Rose. Come on
  • Nash makes the hard look easy but also can make the easy look hard
  • Kiss Cam. No comment.
  • Dudley had to rush that shot at the end of the clock. He's 1-5. Not much of a streak
  • Suns up 84-72

4th Qtr

  • Artificial pumped in noise time
  • Let's see if Dragic can play a little better this time on the floor
  • Suns not getting easy transition points they got in the first quarter. Bulls getting wide open looks now however.
  • Nash back in very early at the 9:15 mark
  • Korver doing his thing - stand at the line and hit open threes
  • 89-81
  • Nash is PISSED about not getting foul call after getting hacked on the arm
  • Deng three. 89-86. Bulls defense locking down. They are energized now. Suns blew their chance to take the fight out of them. Dog fight time.
  • Oh look, Suns getting killed on the glass again. 14-8 OReb, Bulls
  • Hedo holding his lower back. He got floored earlier in the game. Looks stiff
  • That's what I said
  • Suns wisely try and post up CJ Watson with JRich but he loses the ball on his dribble
  • I think I jinxed Goran. Ever since I wrote that story about how great he was playing, he's sucked. Sorry
  • 5th foul on Rose. Looked like they were going to try and post up Frye on him before the call
  • 94-90, 3:50
  • Rose gets to the rim for the and 1. B/c he's Derrick Rose, that's why
  • Big three from JRich. Needed that
  • 97-93, 3:01. Time out, Bulls
  • It would appear someone in the lower level is heaving money into the air. Can't say I've ever seen that before. No idea how much or what denomination bills
  • Suns can win the game but they can't be happy about it. They can lose the game and be really mad. Kind of a lose-suck situation
  • Frye has been a stud in this game but Bulls outside shooting in the 4th has kept them in it
  • Nice interior defense on that Rose drive, turnover
  • Suns getting no good looks on offense. 99-97, Suns. 1:17
  • Suns turnover (Nash) leads to Bulls dunk. 99-99
  • Nash fouled by James Johnson with 21 seconds left
  • Rose bailed out going to the paint with a iffy call on Hill. Rose hits the two FT's. Tie game, 14 seconds and Suns ball. Not sure why he went so early in the clock
  • Suns try and get Hill a shot but Brewer fights through and contests. OT

OT

  • Bulls are brimming with confidence. Rose hits a J to give Bulls first lead of the game
  • Korver just blocked Grant but he got the ball back and hit a shot over him
  • Sweet pass from Noah. Wow
  • I really don't understand why Nash isn't taking advantage of mismatches in the post more. Warrick had a small on him but he goes to Frye for a three instead
  • Nash has missed two wide open threes now
  • JRich for three. Suns up 108-107, 1:04
  • Gentry subbing Nash out on defensive possessions. Noah pushed off on the rebound, Nash in
  • Yikes, Suns get the ball on the call but the review is going to give it back to the Bulls. Right call, it went off Hill's leg. Suns up 108-107 with 21 seconds
  • Rose gets a good look to take the lead but misses, Frye with the rebound and fouled. Non-shooting foul
  • 13 seconds, 108-107. Suns ball
  • Frye hits the FTs. 110-107. 12 sec. Bulls ball
  • Rose missed the three with Grant in his face but Noah tipped it in. 110-109. 5.8 sec. Suns ball
  • Noah denied Nash the ball in the inbounds. Went in to JRich for the FTs and he hit the first and missed the second. 111-109, 4.3 second. Bulls ball
  • Wow, Noah hits Rose cutting baseline for a reverse. Tie game.
  • Suns try the same lob play from Hill to JRich but the Bulls were ready for it

2 OT

  • Rose has had five fouls for awhile now. Suns need to get him out of the game
  • Nice drive by Hedo but he paid for it. Fell hard on his face
  • Suns blew that, Rose wide open J
  • Nash missing shots he normally makes. Tired
  • Deng nails a J in Hedo's face. 118-113 Bulls, 2:20. Suns look dead
  • Suns get a good look for Frye but he missed the three
  • Incredible hustle play from Noah. He's a monster
  • Rose fouled out on an offensive foul! Might be too late for Suns to benefit from that though down 5 with 1:38
  • Nash can't be the hero w/ the three late in the clock
  • Bulls defense impressive. Noah steal on Nash should do it
  • Happy Turkey Day


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Phoenix Suns Look To Defend Home Turf (If Nothing Else) Tonight Against Bulls - Bright Side Of The Sun

The Phoenix Suns need to scrap, claw and shoot their way to a win. They need to fight harder than the other team, and when the game goes down to the wire they need to hope for that occassional defensive stand to seal the deal.

Phoenix Suns Schedule Eases Up (A Tad) With Chicago Bulls In Town - SB Nation Arizona

"We're going to try and grow. The more you sleep, the more you grow," Nash said before talking about how the Suns need to make up for their lack of size and rebounding ability with desire.

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[Note by Seth Pollack, 11/24/10 6:53 PM MST ]

  • The Bulls just announced that Taj Gibson is out (right ankle) and Ronnie Brewer will start. The moves Deng to the PF which is good news for the Suns.
  • Gentry said he's very disappointed in the Suns defense. He expected it to take a step forward this season, not back. He's aiming to be middle of the pack in FG% defense, not happy being last.
  • Expect Grant and Dudley to guard Rose while Nash gets to "hide" on Bogans or even Brewer.


Bulls 123, Suns 115 2OT The Suns have a couple things working in their favor Wednesday when the Bulls roll into Phoenix for Game 5 of their annual “Circus Trip,” the typically brutal road...

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Derrick Rose might get 40 points. Joakim Noah might pull down 25 rebounds.

But as long as the Phoenix Suns don't allow anyone else on the Bulls roster to have a career night, the Thibodeaus can be beat. They just lost a late, hard-fought game to the Lakers less than 24 hours ago with their stars having played 40 minutes apiece. There should be a measure of letdown against a lesser team on the back end of a roadie back-to-back that the rested Suns have the opportunity to exploit.

Yes, it's come to this. Gone are the days where the Suns' fate is entirely in their own hands - that visiting teams not named Spurs were pretty certain to leave empty-handed regardless of how hard or well they played... at least in the pre-game blogosphere.

The Suns are no longer the most talented team on the court each night. They are no longer on the verge of a 10-game winning streak at the drop of a hat. They can no longer lament 'boredom' as the reason for an unexpected loss.

Now, the Phoenix Suns need to scrap, claw and shoot their way to a win. They need to fight harder than the other team, and when the game goes down to the wire they need to hope for that occassional defensive stand to seal the deal.

"We've just got to keep fighting and at least come up with the real important ones," Gentry says. "Which we did (Monday) and a couple of important stops."

That's what we've come to. The Suns are last or next-to-last in every measured defensive category. That is collective fail on a level we've never seen in Phoenix, making the past teams seem stingy by comparison.

But how? How has it gotten this bad, with a handful of defenders on the team willing to work hard on that end?

It has to be the scheme, or it's in the players' heads. When you play an overabundance of small forwards at the same time, you have the ability to switch on picks and screens which can give you an advantage.

Instead, this has bred confusion. Instinctually, these guys have all defended the same general area for their entire careers. That's okay if you're playing two small forwards at once, or one guy out of his natural position, because that player can see quickly where to go if the other four are in the right place and rotating as expected.

But if you've got three guys out of place in the same lineup, confusion runs amok. And that's what we've seen.

Guard Goran Dragic, after the Charlotte loss: "Sometimes it seems we don’t listen to him (Gentry) and do the opposite things."

Despite Goran's comment, I do lay some of this blame on Gentry. A team with this much skill should never be the worst in the league at defense. Sure, rebounding is a problem but it's ALWAYS been a problem. Gentry has to get his guys to pick their poison. You can't repeatedly call double-teams in the post or on the other team's best offensive player if (a) you know it's not effective and (b) that leaves someone else open by 15 feet.

Let's see if the Suns can right the ship.

"There's a mental lapse," said Suns forward Grant Hill, noting the straight drives they yield with no help in sight. "If you do what you're supposed to do and they score, you can live with that. But when we have those mental lapses, that's unacceptable and disappointing. You're going to have a couple of those a game but we're having too many. So we can get better."

 

Tonight's Opponent: Chicago Bulls


FG3PTFTReboundsMisc
GMMAPctMAPctMAPctOffDefTotAstTOStlBlkPFPPG
Derrick Rose 12 37.9 10.0 21.0 47.6 1.3 3.8 34.8 4.3 5.8 72.9 0.8 2.9 3.8 8.4 3.9 1.1 0.6 1.9 25.6
Luol Deng 12 38.2 6.3 15.5 40.9 1.5 4.2 36.0 3.9 5.7 69.1 1.8 4.3 6.1 2.6 2.3 0.8 0.8 2.8 18.1
Joakim Noah 12 38.1 5.6 10.5 53.2 0.0 0.1 0.0 4.1 5.7 72.1 4.3 8.9 13.3 2.3 2.3 1.3 1.7 2.8 15.3
Taj Gibson 12 28.8 5.4 10.3 52.8 0.1 0.2 50.0 1.5 2.3 64.3 2.7 5.0 7.7 1.4 1.6 0.9 1.7 3.4 12.4
Kyle Korver 12 21.4 3.0 6.3 47.4 1.5 3.0 50.0 0.9 1.1 84.6 0.3 2.1 2.3 1.5 1.0 0.8 0.3 2.2 8.4
Ronnie Brewer 12 18.1 2.3 4.3 51.9 0.0 0.1 0.0 1.1 1.8 59.1 0.3 2.3 2.6 0.9 0.8 1.1 0.1 0.9 5.6
Keith Bogans 12 23.6 1.8 4.8 38.6 1.0 3.4 29.3 0.3 0.5 66.7 0.6 2.3 2.9 1.7 0.8 1.1 0.3 1.9 5.0
C.J. Watson 12 13.2 1.9 5.1 37.7 0.3 1.2 21.4 0.9 1.0 91.7 0.3 1.0 1.3 1.9 0.8 0.8 0.0 0.7 5.0
Omer Asik 12 13.0 1.3 2.3 55.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.8 1.5 55.6 0.8 2.8 3.6 0.5 1.1 0.1 0.6 2.4 3.3
James Johnson 5 9.4 0.8 3.6 22.2 0.2 1.0 20.0 0.6 1.2 50.0 0.6 2.4 3.0 1.0 0.8 0.4 0.6 2.6 2.4
Brian Scalabrine 7 8.4 0.9 1.1 75.0 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.7 0.9 0.4 0.6 0.4 0.3 1.6 1.7
Kurt Thomas 3 2.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.3 0.0 0.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.7 0.0


 

Luol Deng is having a consistent season. 18 points, 6 rebounds and 2.6 assists. He's not shooting all that well, but when he's on he can be a mid-range shooting fool. And guess what? The Suns LOVE to give up the midrange shot (or the dribble-drive to the basket if the player so prefers).

In fact, the Suns are like a fast-food restaurant - they love giving up anything the other team wants. Maybe we should call them the McSuns.

But I digress. Back to the Bulls.

Taj Gibson remains a surprisely good power forward given his true skillset. Gibson, you might recall, was taken later in the Earl Clark draft. Clark has a LOT more talent, but Gibson had the combination of "ready now" skills/mentality and opportunity. The Bulls had an opening at PF last year and filled it with a PF. Sure, he doesn't win you games, but at least he represents.

Summary 

As I wrote above, Noah will probably get 20+ rebounds with the Bulls winning the overall rebounding battle by at least 10. Rose will lead the team in scoring, likely getting 40 or more (I can only hope that Goran dunks on Rose in transition).

Still, despite the talent on the Bulls, the Suns are talented too. And rested. And playing at home after a tough road trip.

Don't discount the value of embarassment, not only from the roadie results but from the derisive columns written about their record-settingly porous defense. The Suns should be tired of answering questions about 50% shooting percentages and 60+ points-in-the-paint after every game.

As long as Keith Bogans and Ronnie Brewer don't score 20 between them - which would double their collective season average - the Suns will win this game.

**Afterthought: By the way, has anyone else noticed that Hedo has hit the game-clinching 3-pointer in each of the Suns' last 3 wins, each time putting the Suns up by more than 1 possession in the final minute(s)? We're gonna love and hate that guy all season, but at least he can hit clutch shots.

 

Links

Rebounding and Defense Once Again Hurting the Suns - azcentral.com/Coro

The Suns had to stop the bleeding and Monday's victory at Houston put a bandage on the wound.

But the way they won was no cure-all for what ails the Suns. They won with better offense but still have a diseased defense and rotten rebounding.

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[Note by Seth Pollack, 11/24/10 12:31 PM MST ]

Adding to Alex's great preview with some info from today's shootaround:

One thing I love about this Suns team is they don't run away from their problems. Unlike say, the Arizona Cardinals who keep insisting they are very close to playing well and nothing's really wrong.

There was a lot of good and specific quotes from today's shootaround about the need to improve rebounding and defense, what might have caused the lack of effort in Charlotte, and an update on Nash's groin.

Phoenix Suns Schedule Eases Up (A Tad) With Chicago Bulls In Town - SB Nation Arizona
"We're going to try and grow. The more you sleep, the more you grow," Nash said before talking about how the Suns need to make up for their lack of size and rebounding ability with desire.

Here's a few more quotes that didn't make it into that story:

"No excuse for it. We've got to continue to be a good defensive team even if we haven't been a good rebounding team and hopefully improve the rebounding and get ourselves to a good place rather than not be a good rebounding team and let the defense slip." - Steve Nash.

"A big component of rebounding is just desire. Especially when we're a team that doesn't rebound the ball really well, we've got to have a lot of desire. We've got to rebound together with all the guys doing their part and just try and make up for that discrepancy in size or our rebounding ability with desire." - Steve Nash.

"It's something that we're going to have to work on every day and continue to grow at it and we're going to have to keep pointing that out because it's hurt us in a lot of games." - Alvin Gentry.

Also, you will be happy to hear that Jared Dudley stayed late working on he's threes. I didn't get a chance to talk to him but he obviously knows there's a problem and is at least working to correct it.

I got my first up-close look at Earl Barron as well. The one thing that stood out was his skinny legs. He's a lanky fellow as my pappy would say.

Actually, my grandfather was from Queens, NY would wouldn't have said anything like that but, you know, poetic license. 

Warrick and Dragic continue their reputation as gym rats, staying late once again. By the way, just because certain guys don't stay late doesn't mean they don't care or aren't trying. Guys know their bodies and what not and sometimes too much practice isn't a good thing either. 


Some quick links, stats and fun in advance of Wednesday’s rematch of the ’93 Finals…. Ian Levy over at Hickory-High conducted an in-depth analysis of how Amare and Nash have fared...

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