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Phoenix Suns 2011-12 Bench

Telfair - Playing to prove hes not a bust.

Brown - Playing with his best numbers in a better system, on a 1 year deal to show the NBA hes worth a big contract.

J-Chill - Playing like he did in ATL with more minutes.

Morris/Hak- Playing with the tough inside presence that we need and to prove hes the better brother/playing like the man we paid him to be.

Lopez - Playing like 09-10 Lopez and maybe even better being in his final contract year.

If you look around the west,which is what most of are games will be, We have one of the better benches this year, in terms of scoring and defences which is what we lacked last season.

Dallas - Losing players to FA.

LA - A freaking mess/older and lost Odom who is key to there big depth.

Portland - The coach might be the healthiest person on the team.

Denver - In chaina and the anly players who arent are in FA. that and 7 players show up to camp.

SA - In decent shape and will fair well in a short season. they have the best coach in the West.

OKC- deep as hell. My favorite to be the 1 seed

Mem - Deep but had players playing for contracts last season. the lack of offseason moves will help them retain chemistry but the constant trade chatter of Mayo and Rudy Gay wont help,

We should feel OK knowing that the most offseason drama a suns fan had to endure is whether or not Grant Hill will re-sign. Chemistry and grit is how we made it to the WCF, not STAT.

Good luck Z. (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

Some guys never get a break in this cutthroat business. Then again, some guys never reach the locker room. Zabian Dowdell can look at the bright side and at least tell his kids he made it to the show.

Dowdell, suffering from a knee injury (pain behind his right kneecap), has not been able to participate in training camp thus far. With the shortened training camp and preseason schedule, the Suns could no longer afford to wait for Dowdell to heal.

Yet the rumor mill is in full effect, and whether you like the plan or not, Ronnie Price could take Zabian's spot as competition for the backup PG job.

Farewell Z

The timing for Zabian's injury couldn't have been worse, he had stayed close to Phoenix the entire lockout working on his game and staying in shape - but as the end of the lockout approached he suffered this injury and because of the nix on player-organization communication Z couldn't get the Suns training magic that he needed to right his injury before camp. A camp that would have given him the opportunity to showcase his hard work and possibly earn the backup PG Spot.

Maybe there's more to the story - maybe his injury is feared to be something more than just a minor setback... who knows. But one thing is certain - this stroke of bad luck couldn't have a hit a nicer kid. From me and I believe on behalf of all the Bright Side community - we pray you a speedy recovery and another chance, Z.

Ronnie Price to Phoenix?

That's the rumor


A one-year deal for the 28 year old former Utah Jazz guard is the word on the streets.

Seth over at SBNation AZ already has a good write-up of what we can expect from Price, here are some cookies:

Ronnie Price is a 6-2 combo guard who played the last four years with the Utah Jazz as the backup to Deron Wiilliams. He's known for being athletic and a strong, aggressive defender but his point guard and shooting skills are limited according to ESPN's player profile ...

Price would compete for minutes with Sebastian Telfair. Telfair would seem to be more of a pure point who can push the ball and run the offense while Price is bigger, more athletic and a better defender. The combination of the two would give the Suns options behind Steve Nash depending on match-ups.

Check out the rest of Seth's article for some highlight video and more player preview. Then on his (Seth's) Twitter - he expressed a more personal reaction -


So what's your initial reaction?

Stay tuned for more updates as this story unfolds here to today.

[Note by Eutychus, 12/13/11 10:29 AM PST ]



PHOENIX — There were many victims of the NBA lockout, but so far as the players are concerned nobody was hurt more than the rookies. Not only did they have nothing to fall back on financially...

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Has Telfair Found a Home in PHX?(AP Photo/Tony Dejak)

Sebastian Telfair was the 13th overall pick in the 2004 NBA Draft by the Portland Trail Blazers out of Abraham Lincoln High School in Brooklyn, New York. He had committed to the University of Louisville and head coach Rick Pitino during his senior year, but decided instead to turn professional.

The Phoenix Suns, known for drafting brothers through the draft, have in a somewhat analogous way, kept up with this tradition of blood acquisitions: Telfair is a cousin of former Sun, Stephon Marbury.

You all know the story of Telfair-a high school phenom, an undersized point guard who has been around the league without reaching the potential many predicted he would achieve. Given the chance as a starting point guard in many of his 6 stops (PTL, Celts, Wolves-twice, Clips, and Cavs), Telfair has never broken through. With career averages of 23 minutes per game, 39% shooting, 78% from the line, to go with 3.8 assists and 7.8 points per game, Telfair will be battling Zabian Dowdell for the backup PG job.

Unless you have been following Telfair's less than illustrious career, you probably have the same questions that I have about the kid guy:

  • Will Sebastian Telfair be able to handle the Suns second unit when Steve Nash needs a break? Or, if Nash misses more than a few games here and there, will the Suns totally malfunction with Telfair running the show? (I'm thinking of a Indy Colts analogy here)

To help us all out, I got a hold of Bryan Anderson over at Canishoopus with some 411 on Mr. Telfair. Here we play 6 questions with Brian:

W: Were you all happy to see Telfair go, or not? Why?

B: I have mixed feelings about seeing Telfair depart. This is actually the second time he's been on the team and left. For one, I have a good bit of loyalty to Bassy, and I think a lot of fans here in Minnesota share that feeling. Telfair did good work for us. He saved a lot of dignity for us after Garnett left and Kevin McHale came to the disastrous conclusion that Randy Foye could be a point guard. We developed a fondness for him because he was the only competent, reliable point guard on the roster for a while.

That said, he was never anything special as a player, and probably shouldn't have been a starter. He's very much ideally a sixth man. His scoring is very streaky and that's not likely to change. We were always wincing when he'd pull up for a three, especially during his second stint here under Rambis. He's not that type of player. So personal loyalty aside, I can't say I'm sorry to see him go. There's nothing he could do that Luke Ridnour and JJ Barea won't do better.

W: If Telfair makes the roster as a backup PG, do you think he could handle 15-20 minutes per game spelling Steve Nash?

B: He absolutely can handle that. Just don't rely on him to score. Put the ball in his hands and tell him to get shots for Hill and Gortat and Frye, and he'll do good work for you.

W: Telfair came into the NBA with a super high ceiling. Why do you all think he has struggled to achieve that status? Was he overrated? Low basketball IQ?

B: There's a few factors going into this. One is that he developed a scorer's mentality at Abraham Lincoln High School, but he's not a natural scorer. Another is he's just very small...like, Allen Iverson small...and never compensated for that. He gets pushed around a lot. He has trouble finishing in traffic when he gets bumped because he's so light he can't absorb the contact. He wasn't ready coming out as a high schooler. He should have spent a couple of years in college. He wanted to follow in the footsteps of Stephon Marbury, but doesn't have Marbury's size or scoring touch, and never learned any skills to compensate for that.

W: Do you think that playing on the same team with Nash will help Telfair in any way?

B: Honestly, not likely. He's 26 years old and has been in the league for 8 seasons. His numbers have been consistent through his career. He is what he is at this point.

W: If given consistent time, what kind of numbers would we expect to see out of Telfair?

B: Given about 20 minutes a night, I'd expect something in the range of 6-10 ppg and 4-5 assists. A lot will depend on his role. He had major problems under Rambis, being asked to play the Derek Fisher role of shooting a lot and passing little. That's the opposite of him as a player. He'll benefit from a more open system that asks him to pass more and shoot less, as well as one that can live with his sometimes risky decisions.

W: Bonus Question: Do you agree with SB's asessment of Telfair:


  • Very fast. A solid ball-handler and a good passer who excels at pushing the ball and running the offense. Has a nice shooting motion and can score in bunches.


  • Undersized and not much of a factor defensively or on the boards. Streaky in general. Somewhat injury-prone. Has bounced around the league despite good talent level.

Career Potential

  • Streaky but talented point guard.

B: Not sure I would agree about him having a good shooting motion. I suppose mechanically that's true, but the result is a miss a lot more often than a make.

Suns fans, what do you expect out of Bassy, stat-wise and other?

Can Sebastian Telfair Be a Reliable Backup Point Guard?

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