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The Phoenix Suns held their eighth workout leading up to the 2013 NBA Draft that included more options at No. 57 and a familiar face for the third time. No big names. No first round prospects. Just another workout showing the due diligence nature of GM Ryan McDonough as well as his thorough approach to his first draft running the Suns.

This workout was highlighted by no players rated on the Top 75 of the Big Board, but had some familiar faces. Korie Lucious (Iowa State) was in for the third time for a workout. By now hopefully the team has his number picked out for Summer League and his locker name plate printed out.

Another familiar (name) with ties to the Suns today was Elston Turner Jr. His dad was an assistant here in Phoenix for a few years before being unceremoniously left out of the mix as the interim head coach.

Turner Jr. is a defensive stopper with great size and strength to defend multiple perimeter positions, but was inconsistent as an offensive weapon in college. He has the potential as a shooter, but as a one-on-one scorer he has a ways to go on the offensive end as a whole. Pledger has a similar build as a big, physical guard.

The rest of the workout group had some interesting prospects like Snaer, who became a household name for his heroics including multiple game-winners during his career. Clark is a combo guard that can play both positions and at times was the reason Belmont was so successful in their two-guard system. A system that is relevant in today's NBA.

Dunk City was in attendance as well with Brown who has a nice overall skill-set and was afforded this opportunity based on his teams success in the tournament.

Six months ago, to tell you the truth, I would not have been able to tell you I would be here in this moment. I knew that I had the talent to be here, but I didn't think I was going to have the chance to showcase it.

Here is a scouting take on the prospects:

  • Michael Snaer -- Florida State -- Senior shooting guard: Over the years he has collected his share of game-winners (four, see below) and has the ability to knock down tough shots. He is undersized as a full-time two and lacks the ability to consistently create offense for himself.
  • Elston Turner Jr. -- Texas A&M -- Senior wing: Big, strong physical wing that can be imposing on the defensive end when he is not trying to be an offensive player. He is a quality shooter with space, but not a iso-heavy type scorer. Turner has pedigree with a father that has played and coached in the NBA.
  • Sherwood Brown -- Florida Gulf Coast -- Senior guard: The glue to "Dunk City" is more that just a highlight reel. He can handle the ball, score, get to the rim, and rebound the ball well for his position.
  • Ian Clark -- Belmont -- Senior point guard: Not as highly regarded as his teammate from Belmont, but Clark has the size and play-making ability to be a quality point guard at any level. Quality athlete, good scorer, and feel for the game.
  • Korie Lucious -- Iowa State -- Senior guard: Third time around the Suns know him well. Combo guard, quality defender, and good shooter. Had some issues off the court leading to a transfer, but made the most of the situation at ISU.
  • Steven Pledger -- Oklahoma -- Senior guard: Another sturdy wing with great strength and size for position. Quality defender and good three-point shooter.

***Jeff Hornacek will coach the Summer League team with at least Kendall Marshall, Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris, Diante Garrett, P.J. Tucker, and the draft picks this year

***Overall, the count is now at 56 total players worked out

***The team might have a few more group workouts here this week as early as Thursday

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As has been rumored for weeks in real life, my "mock" front office saw the logic in making a trade Marcin Gortat to the Portland Trailblazers in exchange for Joel Freeland (2 yrs, $3 mill per year) and the #10 overall pick.

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Suns acquire #10, draft Gobert


Trading Gortat

It's time to get the most possible for Gortat, and the Trailblazers obliged with giving back the #10 pick. While the Blazers need to get "older" with a veteran center to play next to LaMarcus Aldridge, the Suns need to get a lot younger.

The trade, as rumored in real life and executed in this mock draft, cannot be completed until the new league year starts. But that didn't stop us, and it doesn't often stop real teams either. (though that might have allowed GS to wiggle out of the Amare trade in 2009, because it wasn't finalized on draft night, but that's just a rumor)

Really, the Suns need to get younger and Marcin Gortat, who will be 30 and playing for another team this time next year, is one of their best assets. Getting a 2013 lottery pick - #10 even! - is a heckuva deal.

Rudy Gobert

At the time of the mock draft (two weeks ago today), 21-year old Rudy Gobert was ranked on most sites the best available pure center after Nerlens Noel and Alex Len. With those two off the board, it was still a toss up between Gobert, Cody Zeller (20) and Steven Adams (19) for me.

My fellow front office folks were also torn between the three, and even Mason Plumlee, but nbadraftinsider,com's Managing Editor and the only real live NBA scout in our "mock" front office Kris Habbas gave a great scouting report on Gobert to sell us all on him.

Obviously there is a chance for him to not pan out, but in all honestly, what is the difference between Gobert and Noel? They are both quality defensive prospects with one main skill to hang their hat on; Shot-Blocking.

Noel is a better overall athlete, but Gobert is further along physically and has the tools to be a great defender. He is efficient on offense and has to improved year-by-year on that end showing potential of being a 10-10-3 type player.

Can he be a bust? Absolutely, but so can Noel, Len, Zeller, Adams, and the other high profile big men. That is the risk with drafting a big.

Who should they target at 10? If you have Oladipo already and are losing Gortat the easiest thing to do is draft a five. Gobert is the highest rated five to me left. If you are not in love with Gobert then I shy away from the position altogether because Olynyk and Zeller have higher bust potential than Gobert.

Well, I really wanted a five and so Gobert was the pick. On the actual draft night, the Suns' pick might be different. Gobert came to Phoenix weeks ago - at the start of the workout season - while Steven Adams came in at the end, just a few days ago. It's possible they like Adams more.

The wildcard here is Mason Plumlee, older than the others but extremely athletic. If the Suns see too much bust potential in Gobert and Adams, then maybe they go with a more sure thing in Mason Plumlee from Duke who will already be 23 or 24 next season as a rookie. Lower ceiling, but higher floor.

Why not Cody Zeller? The mock front office thinks he will be a 4 in the NBA, not a 5. The Suns have a few guys who play the 4, and are bringing back Channing Frye next year too. They really need a 5.

But then again, maybe Zeller has the highest ceiling overall and so maybe he's the better pick.

But I took Gobert. Deal with it.

What of the other lottery pick trades?

None of the others worked out. We decided that none of the trade offers from Detroit (8), Minnesota (9) and OKC (12) gave the Suns enough of a return. Better to hold onto Dudley than to take on salary.

If Dudley goes, then salary needs to be cleared AND the Suns need to get a young prospect as well.

What's next?

With Victor Oladipo and Rudy Gobert officially "mock" Phoenix Suns, that is not all. Oh no, that is not all.

The Suns still hold a lot of cards - Dudley, young players Morris, Morris and Marshall, and the #30 overall.

Surprisingly to some Suns fans, these were somewhat coveted assets to teams outside the top 10.

Since Dudley was a #21 pick himself and is not a true NBA starter on a championship team (as Eric from canishoopus.com said: "we missed the part where he is a multi-time All Star"), maybe the better deals are a few picks away.

I spent the next few days of our Mock Draft negotiating for more youth - I wanted at least two new young players with the second half of the first round.

The more youth, the better.

Rogers

Really good assistants are hard to find, yet almost no one outside of NBA coaching and front office circles even knows who they are.

I had never heard of Roy Rogers before two weeks ago, even forgetting that he was a marginal NBA player at one point. Since retiring, Rogers has been an assistant for all of five seasons with three different teams.

He spent last year working with Andre Drummond in Detroit, and two years before that working with Brook Lopez in New Jersey. His total years on an NBA bench in an assistant role: five seasons.

Yet, he's been coveted by many teams this offseason while head coaches are installing new staffs all over the country.

First, he was destined for Sacramento. Was even hint-introduced by new coach Mike Malone after he assisted Malone in a pre-draft workout.

Then, he was off to Phoenix to work with Jeff Hornacek. Word leaked a week ago, though not confirmed by anyone in the Suns organization. Only that there were finalists and nothing would be announced until the ink was dry on contracts.

Then last night, word leaked that Rogers was waffling again. This time to possibly reunite with his old head coach, Lawrence Frank, back in New Jersey to work for Jason Kidd.

At that point, the Suns decided they had enough.

Per Lon Babby to Paul Coro of azcentral.com/sports:

"We couldn't finalize a deal with Roy Rogers," Suns President of Basketball Operations Lon Babby said. "We have withdrawn our offer. As the contract process unfolded, we have decided that it's best for the Suns to look elsewhere. Financial considerations were not a factor."

The Suns will now need to hire two assistants to join Jerry Sichting and Jeff Hornacek on the Suns' sidelines.

Rogers

Really good assistants are hard to find, yet almost no one outside of NBA coaching and front office circles even knows who they are.

I had never heard of Roy Rogers before two weeks ago, even forgetting that he was a marginal NBA player at one point. Since retiring, Rogers has been an assistant for all of five seasons with three different teams.

He spent last year working with Andre Drummond in Detroit, and two years before that working with Brook Lopez in New Jersey. His total years on an NBA bench in an assistant role: five seasons.

Yet, he's been coveted by many teams this offseason while head coaches are installing new staffs all over the country.

First, he was destined for Sacramento. Was even hint-introduced by new coach Mike Malone after he assisted Malone in a pre-draft workout.

Then, he was off to Phoenix to work with Jeff Hornacek. Word leaked a week ago, though not confirmed by anyone in the Suns organization. Only that there were finalists and nothing would be announced until the ink was dry on contracts.

Then last night, word leaked that Rogers was waffling again. This time to possibly reunite with his old head coach, Lawrence Frank, back in New Jersey to work for Jason Kidd.

At that point, the Suns decided they had enough.

Per Lon Babby to Paul Coro of azcentral.com/sports:

"We couldn't finalize a deal with Roy Rogers," Suns President of Basketball Operations Lon Babby said. "We have withdrawn our offer. As the contract process unfolded, we have decided that it's best for the Suns to look elsewhere. Financial considerations were not a factor."

The Suns will now need to hire two assistants to join Jerry Sichting and Jeff Hornacek on the Suns' sidelines.

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