After a pretty wacky trade deadline in February, the 2013 offseason likewise trended differently under the relatively new collective bargaining agreement. With teams strapped with only one or two...

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S : Best in the game (LeBron James)

A+ : Right on heels of best player (Kevin Durant)

A : Top 5 player

A- : Top 5 at position/Potential All-NBA players

B+ : All-Stars

B : Good starters/fringe All-Stars

B- : Good starter

C+ : decent starter

C : fringe starter/bench player

C- : good bench player

D+ : average bench player

D : Fringe rotation player

D- : bad player

F : not NBA caliber

Factors: production+efficiency+talent (emphasis on this year but whole career taken into account)

*Note: There is no specific order within each tier.

Tier 1 (A)

- Chris Paul

Chris Paul is clearly the top point guard in the game in my opinion and one of the best players in the entire league.

Tier 2 (A-)

- Russell Westbrook

- Derrick Rose

- Tony Parker

- Deron Williams

Deron Williams probably doesn't belong in this category after his years with the Nets, but I'm not giving up on him just yet.

Tier 3 (B+)

- Stephen Curry

- Kyrie Irving

- John Wall

- Rajon Rondo

With the exception of Rondo, this is a group of really talented up-and-coming point guards that are going to be total studs in their primes.

Tier 4 (B)

- Mike Conley

- Ty Lawson

- Damian Lillard

- Goran Dragic

- Kyle Lowry

- Steve Nash

- Jrue Holiday

These are really good players. Some of them are on the way up, some of them are on the way down, but they're all right on the edge between solid starter and All-Star consideration. They all have their flaws
most players do.

Tier 5 (B-)

- Ricky Rubio

- Jeff Teague

Rubio really need to become a better scorer before he makes the jump to a higher tier.

Tier 6 (C+)

- Greivis Vasquez

- George Hill

- Jeremy Lin

- Kemba Walker

Good, solid players, but nothing special.

Tier 7 (C)

- Raymond Felton

- Nate Robinson

- Jarrett Jack

- Andre Miller

- Jose Calderon

- Steve Blake

- Reggie Jackson

- Jameer Nelson

- Mario Chalmers

- Mo Williams

- Brandon Jennings

- Darren Collison

- Eric Bledsoe

- Devin Harris

- Kirk Hinrich

All these players can start if they need to, but they'd be best coming off the bench on a good team.

Tier 8 (C-)

- Isaiah Thomas

- J.J. Barea

- Ramon Sessions

- Beno Udrih

- C.J. Watson

Solid back-up point guards.

Tier 9 (D+)

- Norris Cole

- Sebastian Telfair

- D.J. Augustin

- Patrick Beverley

- Brian Roberts

- Jimmer Fredette

- Pablo Prigioni

- Cory Joseph

- Eric Maynor

Decent back-ups. They all have their strengths.

Tier 10 (D)

- Shaun Livingston

- Jamaal Tinsley

- Mike James

- Earl Watson

- Charles Jenkins

- Nando De Colo

- Daniel Gibson

- A.J. Price

These guys can fill in as a back-up depending on how the rest of your roster looks.

Tier 11 (D-)

- Derek Fisher

- Marquis Teague

- Kendall Marshall

- Tony Wroten

You probably don't want these guys playing many minutes for your team.

Tier 12 (F)

- Ronnie Price

- Nolan Smith

- Chris Duhon

- Darius Morris

Bad, bad basketball players.

And there it is. What do the Bright Siders think of my first batch of grades/rankings/tiers?

Eric Bledsoe entered this offseason as perhaps the most sought-after trade prospect that has yet to really prove anything. Thanks to limitless athleticism and a variety of jarring plays he has made...

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Actually... maybe wheel and deal isn't the most glowing praise for the recent moves. It actually has a negative connotation based on Old West gambling (roulette and cards) and generally implies an underhanded, exploitative action. Sorry Ryan. I was looking forward to dropping this scintillating bit of knowledge, for at least some of you, but when I did it shattered. Sad face.

Now that the Suns have up to three first round picks in the 2014 draft, McMiracle has his work cut out for him to acquire the other 27.

Special thanks to Tom Lewis from Indy Cornrows for putting up with me joining us for another pedestrian brilliant episode! You are not just a man, Tom, but in fact THE man. Trust me, I fact checked this on the internet.

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Phoenix Suns Podcast Episode 32 Tom Lewis Interview


Let's start with a trivia question: which Phoenix Suns team in the last four seasons played the highest number of young players in its regular rotation?

Was it the 2012-13 Suns team that went 25-57 season, worst in the West and their third consecutive year out of the playoffs, who spent most of the second half of their season with the sole purpose of going young?

Or, was it the 2009-10 Suns team that went 54-28 in the last hurrah of a storied mid-decade run of six consecutive winning seasons, led by 36 year old Steve Nash and 34 year old Grant Hill?

What exactly is "young" anyway?

Well, "young" is a subjective term. I realize that. For the purpose of this article, I'm going to consider a player "young" if he played the season at 24 years old or younger.

In the most simplistic terms, players 25 years of age or older in the NBA are unlikely to become a much better player than they already are (on a per-minute basis). Sure, there are exceptions. Steve Nash went from a 28-year old middling starter in Dallas to the league MVP in Phoenix at age 29. But for every Steve Nash, there are at least 100 NBA players who don't improve demonstrably after age 24 unless their previous struggles were due to injury or lack of opportunity.

Let's use an example. Most would agree that the Morris twins, who played last season at age 23, are close to their apex as NBA players. Even those who think they can get better would wholeheartedly agree that it needs to happen this season or it never will. This season, they will play at the age of 24.

But if you don't agree with my highly arbitrary subjective logic, just bear with me. Deciding where to draw the line is actually immaterial to the impact of this article. Wherever you draw the line, the Phoenix Suns were old last year compared to other lottery teams.

Let's go with "young" being 24 years of age or younger during the majority of the season in question.

The 2012-13 Phoenix Suns

Last year's Suns were the second oldest non-playoff team in the NBA (second to Dallas), but right in the middle of the pack of the entire league. (as of games in early April 2013)


If it looks awful to you, it is. Only Dallas made the Suns look baby-faced by comparison. As you can see in the chart, the Suns were one of only three lottery teams without a top-ten pick in the last decade (Dallas, Orlando). Generally, once you're in the lottery and getting top-ten picks, you're likely to stay there a while.

Dallas continued on the Suns' treadmill last season, playing an old roster just enough to finish barely outside the playoffs. Orlando, on the other hand, tanked like a futhermucker. They went from deep playoff capable to second-worst in the entire league in less than 12 months, thanks to turning Dwight Howard into a bevy of young talent. The Lakers had already traded their picks to Phoenix, so they had to sign up Philly (and Denver) to fork over the necessary young talent. A year later, only Orlando has anything of value to show for the big trade. Ouch.

The Suns are somewhere between Dallas and Orlando, even a year later. But at least now they are closer to Orlando, where they belong, until the next big star hits the Valley.


Back to the trivia question: which Phoenix Suns team in the last three seasons played the highest number of young players in its regular rotation - the 2009-10 Western Conference Finals team or the 2012-13 Worst in the West team?

The fact is that the 2009-10 Suns team played more young guys in their rotation than last year's Suns. Yes, I'm talking about the 2009-10 Suns team that won more games in their last 35 attempts (28-7) than last year's model did in 82 (25-57). Ouch.

2009-10 - THREE guys under 25 made the top TEN in minutes per game. Record 54-28

  • Jared Dudley, 24, 6th in minutes per game (24.3 per game for 82 games, 1 start)
  • Robin Lopez, 21, 7th in minutes per game (19.3 per game for 51 games, 31 starts)
  • Goran Dragic, 23, 8th in minutes per game (18.0 per game for 80 games, 2 starts)

2012-13 - TWO guys under 25 made the top TEN in minutes per game. Record 25-57

  • Markieff Morris, 23, 7th in minutes per game (22.4 per game for 82 games, 32 starts)
  • Michael Beasley, 24, 8th in minutes per game (20.7 per game for 75 games, 20 starts)
  • 3 others under 25 played a grand total of 1,221 minutes (Mook, Marshall, Garrett)

Before you raise your hand to ask, the answer is no. No, the Suns did not do any better in the "youth" department during Nash's last two seasons either. In 2010-11, the same three young guys played top-ten minutes, and in 2011-12 Robin Lopez lost all his minutes and didn't even qualify for the top ten, while Dragic played terribly and got traded at the deadline. At least, 2011-12 brought us Markieff Morris.

*Sidenote: Jared Dudley only counted as "young" for the purposes of this article in 2009-10, becoming a "veteran" in subsequent years. Fits, doesn't it? Dudley did not improve his per-minute numbers. He just got more of them until last season.

Inside the numbers

Lack of quantity

The Suns biggest problem in the past decade was lack of quantity of draft picks, coupled with holding onto their aging veterans for longer than they probably should have.

Thanks to only two first-round picks in three years from 2010-12, and those each being #13 overall, the Suns had little homegrown talent to develop.

Lack of quality

Last summer, the Suns tried to address the lack of quantity of young players, so they worked hard to bring in new, young blood all the way through the trade deadline. The Suns acquired the #2 overall pick in 2009, #5 overall in 2010 and #14 overall in 2011.

But while the youth they brought in checked the boxes on paper, the players themselves were wholly underwhelming.

Here's the biggest punch in the gut: not one Suns player 24 years old or younger has played starters minutes in Phoenix since 2007 (when Stoudemire, Diaw and Barbosa were all 24 years old). Since then, the best any young player has done was 6th best on the team in minutes per game.

That's a long time since the Suns have had a starting quality young talent in Phoenix, hombres.

The new, "young" Suns

*Note: ages in this section are for the majority of NEXT season, so you'll see a lot of guys listed one year older than you thought they were.

If nothing else this season, expect to see at least one young player (Eric Bledsoe, 24 next season) play starter minutes each night for the first time since 2007. In addition to Bledsoe, the Suns have several other young players who might crack the regular 10-man rotation.

The way I see it, it's a good bet that at least FOUR of the SEVEN* guys under 25 next season will be in the Suns' top ten player rotation: Eric Bledsoe (24), Archie Goodwin (19), Markieff Morris (24) and Marcus Morris (24).

*Malcolm Lee is 24 next season, but nothing has been said of Lee by the brass so I assume he's gone soon. Alex Oriakhi is not yet signed to a contract. Miles Plumlee, Diante Garrett and Michael Beasley all turn 25 before next season starts, so they don't count as "young" for this article.

This is a big year for Bledsoe and the Morrii. They will be playing next season at age 24, the point at which most players become who they are in the NBA. At the end of the 2012-13 season, we will be pretty confident what we have in these three players for the rest of their careers.

The remaining young players, Goodwin, Alex Len (20) and Kendall Marshall (22), will get a chance to play but would only get big minutes if they show great progression in training camp. Goodwin won a lot of trust from Hornacek in Summer League, so I think he's got the leg up on those other two for a top-ten spot in the rotation.

But to expect all as SIX of these guys to be top-ten players in terms of minutes per game is a tough task unless the Suns do further purging (which they might). But watch out - sometimes you get what you wish for. Only one NBA team had 6 of their top ten players under 25 years old last year (sorted in order of win total).

Why didn't the worst NBA teams play even more young players big minutes? That's twofold. For one, not many teams even had that many NBA caliber players under 25 to throw out there.

For another, it's about playing the right way, per Amin Elhassan (formerly in the Suns front office, now a scout and journalist for ESPN Insider).

"One of the most nuanced elements of tanking," Amin said. "Is the art of being bad without learning bad habits; without it, you are stuck in a vicious cycle of bad basketball."

Even the youngest of the young, New Orleans with SIX of their top ten players under 25, had to mix in some veterans to keep order in the clubhouse.

But won't those veterans drive up the win rate? Uh no. Just look at the Suns, who won only 25 games despite playing giving big minutes to older veterans without a big upside. But if you have the right veterans, they can set the proper tone for the kids to follow.

"There definitely needs to be culture setting from your leadership (ownership, front office, coaching)," Amin continued. "And it needs to be consistent, and consistently applied. But beyond that, successful team cultures almost always feature a 'champion of the cause' from inside the locker room aka players policing their own.

"That policing doesn't necessarily require a vet playing 30 minutes a night, but his voice can certainly be diminished if he is racking up DNPs. Younger players need to be able to respect the vets for not only their sage advice, but also for the fact that they can bust your [expletive deleted] on the court if need be."

The Suns need to play their young guys, but they can't force feed them into the lineup ahead of better players who happen to be vets. Jared Dudley lost some influence last season because he was losing minutes to the very guys who needed a kick in the pants. Yet the veterans who kept their minutes (Gortat, Dragic) failed to step up to the lead the team either.

There needs to be a pecking order that includes respect. At this point, the culture setting on the 2013-14 Suns is going to have to come from Jeff Hornacek and his band of merry assistants. On the court, the only leader-type players on the roster are Caron Butler, Channing Frye and Goran Dragic.

Beyond that, it's a daycare center.

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