Reports and rumors are out there saying the Detroit Pistons are willing to trade Josh Smith. Would he be a good fit for the Phoenix Suns?

There's just a few hours left in the 2014 NBA trade deadline and you better believe smarter people than you and I are sitting in an office on Jefferson Ave. thinking long and hard about stuff like this. But hey, we don't get paid to make decisions. We just have fun thinking about them before they happen and opining on them after.

So, let's kill some time running this through the grey matter mill. How would you feel about Josh Smith on the Suns?

First, the report from Detroit:

Honestly, I can see Josh Smith having value to several NBA teams as a power forward who isn't asked to bear much of the scoring load (Charlotte, Houston, Cleveland, etc.), but at this point the best path forward for the Detroit Pistons is anything that gets them a do-over of its disastrous decision to sign Smith to play small forward alongside young bigs Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond.

Smith was just signed to a $54m, four-year contract by Joe Dumars this summer. He obviously isn't a good fit with their other bigs and is miscast as a full time small forward. Who knew!?!

The Suns clearly have the assets to make a run at him and I won't get into the salary cap stuff, but let's just assume it's doable. I'm confident it is and don't feel like playing Trade Machine Wizard. That's not the point here.

The question is about fit.

Josh Smith is both a flawed and incredibly skilled basketball player. As power forward in Atlanta he played at a fringe all-star level. He's super athletic. Plays great defense. Passes the ball and can run and finish.

He gets into trouble when he has to space the floor and when he takes bad mid and long range shots.

But I have to tell you, the idea of Josh playing the four with the Suns Slash Brothers backcourt is intriguing to me. He's still only 28-years-old and would cost $13m/yr for three more seasons. If Smith, Bledsoe and Dragic are your core and you have the role players and picks the Suns have...well, like I said I'm intrigued.

Imagine Frye, Smith, Tucker, Dragic and Bledsoe on the floor. FAST. DEFENSE. SPACING. PASSING. TOUGH. It doesn't work quite as well with Plumlee due to the spacing issues but both Miles and Len have potential to at least stretch to 15 feet and you can play Smith at the three against guys like Durant and LeBron with Frye on the floor for spacing. There's a lot of options here and a much better fit than in Detroit.

Obviously, from the Suns side you don't want to give up too much and honestly, I'd rather have Thad Young in that role if possible.

But guys with Smith's talent don't fall off trees and certainly not at the price the Pistons would likely be asking.

What do you think?

The Phoenix Suns have just a few hours left to solidify their rotation for a playoff run, unless they already believe that rotation is good to go right now.

The Phoenix Suns are 32-21, sitting in 6th place in the West and showing no signs of folding up the tent.

"These guys believe they can win every game," coach Jeff Hornacek said before last night's win over Boston. "Even when they are down, they never give up."

Hornacek has been saying those words since the Summer Suns went 7-1. He kept saying it when the national pundits predicted a last-place finish but the Suns went 5-2 in preseason. He continued the mantra when the Suns started the season 5-2. He said it again when they went 10-3 in December after a lull in late November.

He continues to say it while the Suns have gone 13-10 since losing their second-best player Eric Bledsoe as the team's young players alternate between lackadaisical periods as a result of playing more minutes than at any time in their career. Only Goran Dragic and P.J. Tucker have refused to get tired. Everyone else has either struggled through a mental wall or physical one, the latest victim being Miles Plumlee.

But still they win, thanks to devising a scheme to show off the team's strengths.

"You can’t make errors against them," Boston coach Brad Stevens said after the loss to the Suns. "Because they are coming and they are coming fast and hard. For all of us from the Northeast that travel down here, we can all agree that [Phoenix] pushes it harder or as hard as any team we’ve seen all year. Even more so then it looked on film."

Earlier in the evening, Stevens pointed out the Suns formula: "They play nine guys, sometimes Len. Out of those nine, seven shoot it great and the other two are dynamite to the rim. The two that I'm talking about are Plumlee and Ish Smith. The rest of them are very capable of going for big nights behind the arc."

He expounded on Goran Dragic as well: "If there was one guy that should have been an All-Star that wasn't, it's [Goran Dragic]. He clearly deserved to be honored for his play. You talk about GUYS, is there a guy on the team you're playing against - he's a GUY. He's playing like a guy does and that's powerful in this league."

So why mess with a good thing?

Eric Bledsoe is getting closer and closer to a return. Coach Hornacek said earlier this week that Bledsoe is ramping up his workouts on a daily basis, and that once he's medically cleared he'd only be 3-4 days from playing.

There is no reason to think that the Suns can't play at their 10-3 level in December once Bledsoe is back to form. That's adding a near All-Star right there, without making any moves.

Yet, there are opportunities to improve.

Backup forward

For one thing, the production from these young guys is a bit inconsistent. While it's fun to say that anyone can go off on any given night, you can bet the coaching staff would prefer night-to-night consistency. Not necessarily in the form of shot-making, but at least in the form of effort and focus.

"You can't take plays off," Hornacek said before the game. He was referring to the Suns allowing easy baskets to Boston after taking 8-point or 10-point leads to allow Boston life. "You get a 10-point lead, you should want to push it to 13 or 14."

You get the feeling that Hornacek would love a team full of P.J. Tucker, Gerald Green and Goran Dragic type players - not the highest skill set but huge, consistent motors.

“Shhh… We don’t want anyone to go after him when he’s a free agent," Hornacek said after the Boston game when asked how much he likes Tucker. "No, PJ is a workhorse – he plays hard, he brings the intensity all the time. He’s got a knack for the ball and when he’s determined to get it he goes and gets it. He’s made some big plays for us last night and then again tonight. We love what he brings to us in terms of leadership, energy, toughness, he’s been invaluable.”

He has said highly positive things about Gerald Green's effort as well as Goran Dragic's all season as well. That's why Green gets 42 minutes despite going 2-16 from the floor (Knicks loss) - he's always giving every ounce he has.

Just like adding Leandro Barbosa in January to provide consistency from that ninth position - at the expense of 19 year old Archie Goodwin - the Suns might add a veteran small forward or power forward today who can come off the bench and provide consistent effort game to game, play to play.

Names being thrown around are Jordan Hill (Lakers) and Brandon Bass (Celtics). Neither would be a big upgrade over the Morris brothers, but they would bring that consistent energy.

Home run

There is also the possibility of a home run today - someone like Kevin Love, or even a lesser talent like Luol Deng. The Suns would love to improve the talent level at the power forward position and both players would do that, but in different ways.

While Deng would provide defense, hustle and moxie that effort-loving coach Thom Thibodeau adored, Love would provide that future All-Star the Suns still lack.

This type of trade at the deadline is much less likely, though it's been done as recently as Deron Williams going to the Nets out of the blue once he made it clear he wanted to leave. No one knew Williams was available, but suddenly he was traded.

A curveball could be Rajon Rondo. Suns GM Ryan McDonough clearly loves him and might want Rondo's production over Eric Bledsoe's promise. Rondo is another who plays great defense and consistent hustle and he's one of the league's best passers, but he's not a great shooter or finisher at the rim - two staples in the Suns' offense.

Quiet Day

While you might see the Suns make a low-level trade to acquire someone for the bench rotation to take minutes from one of the Morrii, the likelihood of a home run is minimal.

Still, we can dream.

After a brief hiatus from the audio platform the podcast is back with a fury and two parts to satisfy your ears while you scroll through Twitter waiting for breaking news on trades... Let's get it!

Today is the day... The day that either everyone criticizes the move the Phoenix Suns (32-21) or judges them for a lack of movement in general. Don't worry, Jim fuels the fire like he always does with his takes on the trade deadline.

In this episode we visit these topics:

  • Dave's All-Star Weekend Trip to New Orleans
  • Goran Dragic as an MVP Candidate
  • The Trade Deadline
  • Gerald Green's offensive outburst
  • And we answer some of teh questions asked on Facebook this week.

Part One: Phoenix Suns Podcast Episode 51 w/Dave King

Part Two: Phoenix Suns Podcast Episode 51.5 w/Jim Coughenour

The game was scrappy, as predicted by both coaches before it began. But the Suns prevailed on the great play of P.J. Tucker's double double, and balanced offense from Goran Dragic, Gerald Green, Channing Frye and Markieff Morris.

It was a scrappy game, but the Suns prevailed over a Boston Celtics team that struggles on offense and showed it in the fourth quarter. The Suns scrapped their own way to a win at home - a necessary win at home.

Will all of these players be on their same teams tomorrow? Who knows. But they are both going in the right direction, I believe.

The Celtics ran out of steam while the Suns finished the game by attacking the rim and getting to the free throw line, as a good team should.

It was a 7-point Suns lead before the foul/flop fest began.


At the beginning of the game, it was a Rajon Rondo / Goran Dragic playoff. Each player had 4 assists in the first six minutes of the game (a 32-assist pace per 48).

It was also a Green-off - Gerald vs. Jeff. Both took a lot of jumpers early on, accounting for 15 of the first 36 points in the game.

But it was P.J. Tucker who took over the game late in the first quarter, causing havoc with his hustle and getting 7 points, 5 rebounds and 2 steals in the first quarter alone. If he seems to be getting better and better, your eyes don't fool you. 14 and 11 over his last three games, 10.7 and 8.2 over 10 games vs. 9.5 and 6.4 on the season.

Suns led 29-21 after one.

The second quarter began with Markieff Morris working Kelly Olynyk on the post, to the point that Boston had to switch off to Humphries (who immediately fouled Morris rather than giving up the points).

The Suns lead got to 11 before the Celtics made a couple of shots and then kept the game close for the rest of the quarter by hustling on every play. They are a mini-version of the Suns by trying to win despite not having All-Stars in the lineup.

The Suns helped the Celtics out by committing 14 first-half turnovers (many unforced) and 10 offensive rebounds to allow the 36%-shooting Celtics to stay in the game. The Suns led by only 2 at halftime.

Suns 52-50 at halftime.

The second half started with Rondo and Bass working the two-man pick and pop game to perfection (four jumpers) while the Suns took bad shots. Not a good start.

Before Hornacek made lineup changes (back to the poor-performing bench), it was a 9-point Celtics lead. The Celtics played their game (midrange shots when they opened up), crashed the boards and kept their hands up for turnovers.

The Suns started getting frustrated at that point but couldn't cut all the way into the lead, until finally they went on a 20-5 run, half of which was with Rondo on the bench for the Celtics.

In the fourth, the Suns extended the run to 25-5 for a 10-point lead before allowing some scrappy scores by the Celtics (is there any other kind for them?).

The Celtics held strong after that by, you guessed it, making some more midrange jumpers - this time three straight by Rajon Rondo. In the third quarter, it was Brandon Bass making four straight. Now its Rondo. Can he keep it up? Bass couldn't. And Dragic came back to fight through the screens.

But the Suns stayed cold, and the Celtics scrapped to within two points at 88-86 on a broken-play three from Olynyk.

Finally, the Suns made enough shots to pull away before the the foul-fest began on both ends of the court. For some reason, the Suns had the lead but they were the ones committing quick fouls.

PHOENIX — Perhaps it’s going to take a few games to knock off the rust. Or maybe it’s just the continuing trend of the Phoenix Suns struggling to get up for lesser opponents....

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