The Phoenix Suns did not land their dream scenario of signing a LeBron James or a Chris Bosh this offseason, but it doesn’t mean it can be labeled as a failure. Executives around the NBA have...

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Phoenix Suns point guard Eric Bledsoe wants a lot of money. The Suns want to pay him a lot of money. But the Suns have to consider the ramifications of the CBA when limiting their offers to the restricted free agent.

The free agency landscape is tough terrain to navigate. The very best players in the league want to play in the best cities for the most money. But not only that, they want to play with their friends and they want to win a lot of games at the same time.

In some way, the NBA is becoming a highly paid adult version of AAU ball where players just want to be with like-skilled friends and make a boatload of cash while doing it.

The more things change

"They don’t want to compete," former Phoenix Suns player and Basketball Hall of Famer Charles Barkley lamented on KTAR at the start of free agency. "I never heard of this before, with players wanting to get together as a super team and not compete."

LeBron James teamed up with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in Miami four years ago thanks to the shrewd maneuvering of Pat Riley, who cleared his decks to give huge contracts to those three and then fill out the roster with filler. The HEAT got to 4 straight Finals before LeBron decided to "return home" last week.

Riley proved that a super-team can work. And now LeBron is trying to team himself and Kyrie Irving with Kevin Love to make a new super-team in his home town while he makes the most money possible under the CBA.

Daryl Morey is trying to do it in Houston, one player at a time. Everyone would love to do it.

The more they stay the same

Charles said he's never heard of this before.

Ehh, I've heard of it before. Before free agency and such, the Los Angeles Lakers were a star-studded team that never had to be broken up by the salary cap rules. Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, Michael Cooper, Mychal Thompson and many more graced the Forum floor for a decade. In Boston, you had Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Dennis Johnson, Robert Parish (and Jerry Sichting, by the way). None of those teams were broken up by salary caps.

Of course, none of them made a bunch of money like today's stars. The average player salary in 1984-85, the first year of the salary cap, was $330,000. Stars like Bird and Jabbar needed to make more than that, so the league had to devise a term called the "Bird Rights", named after Larry Bird, to exceed the cap to retain your own player. Bird and Jabbar made as much as two-thirds of the entire cap itself in those days.

Barkley whined himself off the Sixers in 1992 because they weren't good enough to win a championship (shades of LeBron in 2010) and got traded to a star studded team in Phoenix. But the Suns lost the well-constructed Bulls team (two stars and a bunch of role players) and Charles eventually got himself paired up with Hakeem Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler in Houston (a super team?), but they came up short as well.

When is a max contract not really too much money?

"It would be great to win a championship," Barkley said in that interview, of Anthony's decision between NY and someone else. "But it would be greater to have $35 million dollars."

Today, players are not allowed to exceed 30% of the cap by themselves - even LeBron James is "stuck" at $20.2 million this year. Considering he's been estimated to generate half-billion dollars per year in team revenue by himself, I'd say he's underpaid. And the cap itself is coming to be a sham, given that franchise values are soaring already while TV revenue is set to soar within a couple of years. Expect another player strike in 2016.

So when a player like Chandler Parsons or Gordon Hayward or Eric Bledsoe wants "max money", we have to start questioning ourselves whether that really is too much to ask.

If LeBron James generates a half-billion dollars per year, what does Eric Bledsoe generate? Not nearly as much, but what if it's even $50 million? We're talking extra ticket purchases, concession revenue, merchandise sales, higher local TV packages, etc. etc. The money can add up quick.

But I'm not an economics guy, so I won't go any farther than that. I have no idea what economic impact a player like Eric Bledsoe has on Phoenix - or could have on Phoenix if he makes All-Star teams and starts getting national attention. But I do think it's fair to ask that question.

But it's a business

The other side of the coin is that, now that the CBA is signed, teams have to stay within that confines of the CBA. Every dollar saved on each contract is a dollar that can be spent on another. $63 million is not enough to field the best team in the NBA. It is enough to field a competitive one, and with some luck you can put together an exciting season like the one the Suns just finished.

However, that was a one-time thing. Nearly every player outplayed their contract. Three of them became eligible for new contracts.

  • Total contract value for Eric Bledsoe, Channing Frye and P.J. Tucker in 2013-14: $9.9 million, or 17% of the salary cap
  • Total contract value for Bledsoe, Frye and Tucker in 2014-15 (estimated): $28 million, or 44% of the salary cap

That's staggering how much those guys were underpaid last year, and it underscores why the Suns had to let (at least) one of them go. You need to field a team of 13 players, so spending 44% of the cap on three is tough to swallow.

Next summer, you've got Gerald Green, Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris and Goran Dragic all coming up for new contracts. This year, they will make less than $17 million combined, or 27% of the cap. That's a great deal for four of your 13 active players. However, in 2015-16 their total contract value could be as high as $40 million. With only one real starter in that group, you're starting to see the picture.

Bledsoe's demands

So we are at a standstill. Bledsoe's team think he is worth more than the most money the CBA can allow. At the least, he wants to be paid like Russell Westbrook, who got his own max extension recently.

Players have collectively decided that they need to get theirs and let the teams lay in the bed they made for themselves. LeBron insisted on max money on Cleveland. Bosh got max money in Miami. Carmelo Anthony got (a hair short of) max money in New York. Kobe Bryant got more than all of them in LA.

Restricted free agents are getting theirs as well. Gordon Hayward. Chandler Parsons.

And now Eric Bledsoe wants to join the group. He wants the most the Suns can offer (5 years, $84 million), but would likely settle for the most some other team can offer (4 years, $63 million). Still, he wants the max, and doesn't think it's his problem to deal with the salary cap implications.

He is not going to give a home town discount unless he's forced into it. And he shouldn't be expected to do that either.

I would love it if Bledsoe signed for $12 million per year because that leaves more money for the Suns to spend on other players. If he gets $16 million per year, that's a loss of a really good rotation player. One that might spell the difference between winning a playoff series or losing it.

But is that Bledsoe's problem? Or is it the team's problem? Or, the NBA's problem?

Mo money

Frankly, I don't think Robert Sarver would mind paying Bledsoe all that money. He gave richer contracts to Amare Stoudemire. STAT took one (in 2005) but not the next one (in 2010, because it had non-guaranteed portions).

But he also lost Joe Johnson over a few million dollars. And other players have left with a bitter taste in their mouths as well over the limits he puts on the spending. But he says he's learned his lessons.

"Two big things I learned," he told John Gambodoro before the Draft this year. "Sometimes if you have something really good, you think the grass is greener somewhere else. You try to get better but you also have the chance of getting worse in trying to get better."

Well, the grass is pretty green right here. The Suns have a good thing going with this team and it would be a shame to break it up over a little money.

But they got caught up looking over that fence at LeBron this month. They lost Channing Frye in the process, but managed to recover enough to keep Tucker. Now there's Bledsoe sitting all alone, but getting really antsy.

"Eric is our #1 priority," GM Ryan McDonough said reassuringly on NBATV last week.

The Suns don't want to bid against themselves, but they need to keep their own players happy when they are the #1 priority. Losing Bledsoe now would make the Suns appear cheap once again, and you'll never get the best players to come to Phoenix if you can't keep your own players.

Plus, losing Bledsoe would be a step in the wrong direction. This team is on the rise, and they cannot afford to lose their best players over contract problems. Don't do a "Joe Johnson Revisited" here.

This is the time to strike. Find a deal with Bledsoe and get it done. Even $15 million won't be as big on the cap in two years as it is today. Maybe next year and the year after, players will want to come to Phoenix because they know they will be treated well financially and that their teammates will be treated well too.

And worry about next year, next year.


Seriously, two years in a row with a disappointing finish at the Las Vegas Summer League? Okay, it is not that serious, but after a loss in the Championship Game last summer the Phoenix Suns were knocked out a little earlier ending the "work" part of the vacation for all Arizona based writers...

Overall there was a lot of good stuff from the Suns in Summer League, but, of course, it is Summer League. Have to throw out that disclaimer, because... Summer League.

Enough of me. Let's get to what matters, the takes of the staffers:

1. Breaking the Ice: Summer League ended for the Phoenix Suns with a thud this year, but there were some silver lining moments. What was yours?

Jim Coughenour:

Jacob Padilla:

Sreekar Jashti:

Garrett Benson: Outside of TJ Warren, there wasn't too much to get excited about for me.  Seeing Seth Curry and Dionte Christmas get hot against Philly was fun, but overall a bummer of a summer league.  We all expected Plumlee to be a man this year, but he didn't even look as good as he did last summer.  We didn't see much of Alex Len before he got hurt.  Alec Brown was even less NBA-ready than I hoped.  Now, Archie Goodwin had some nice moments in the first few games, Plumlee destroyed Jabari Parker with his block, and Curry was a streaky scorer, so it wasn't totally bad.  And of course, Warr Machine...

2. It is Summer League, of course, but how excited are you to have a scorer like T.J. Warren on the team next year?



GB: Absolutely ecstatic.  Honestly, watching Warren is the only thing that justified the $5 purchase to watch the Summer League games.  The guy knows how to score the ball, and I really like that he gets his points in crafty ways.  He said he was nervous, but he looked pretty poised to me.  I feel better about the pick every day; we have to be careful not to read too much into Summer League, but Warren looks ready to contribute at the NBA level.  He'll be a nice addition to what is looking to be like a pretty potent bench next season.  If Marcus Morris isn't playing the 4, he might need to step up his game to keep Warren off his heels.


3. Who is the lost fifth wheel in the guard rotation next year Tyler Ennis or Archie Goodwin? (Based on Summer League play)


GB: It's got to be Ennis, right?  I've been outspoken about my distaste for the Ennis pick, and his play did nothing to quell my concerns. I want to shake the Kendal Marshall comparisons in my head, but I just haven't seen enough from him yet.  I am, however, happy to see that he's getting steals at the professionalish level. It seemed like he was the beneficiary of a zone defense that allowed him to gamble in college, but hopefully I'm wrong and it translates to the NBA level.  At any rate, I don't see him getting meaningful minutes this season with three good point guards already on the team.  Ennis should probably expect Bakersfield to be his home for the next year.



4. Speaking of Archie Goodwin: Progression, Regression, or about the same? Overall thoughts on his play.

GB: While I certainly think he played better than Ennis, Archie didn't exactly knock my socks off, either.  He had moments, particularly in the first two games, that looked like he was progressing nicely.  He looked fearless driving the ball on Giannis Antetokounmpo, and shot well against Golden State.  He hasn't done much since then, but I'm not too worried about him.  Archie's only a second year player and 19 years-old.  He's still got room to grow (is he literally still growing? He looked a little taller...), and I think we need to be patient with his development.  But he'll be ripping off MVPs here in no time.




5. Will there be any Summer League players that are not current contract players that make the roster for this upcoming season? (Based on Summer League play)




GB: I wouldn't count on it. Curry had some moments, and I know Ryan McDonough's got a legitimate thing for point guards, but there's just no room for another.  Elias Harris was decent, but he didn't do anything that demanded a contract.  Neither Taylor Braun nor David Stockton played enough to even be considered. Christmas probably has a good chance of getting his contract picked up, but that's mostly for the cheerleader role he played last year.

BONUS: Things are about to get boring for a month or so... What needs to happen between now and Training Camp to finalize the roster?



GB: The Anthony Tolliver signing was a nice short-term solution to replacing Frye, but I think the Suns definitely need to upgrade at PF.  There are slim to no options available through free agency, so it would have to come through trade.  McDonough was active on the trade front this time last year.  I hope he's working the phones, because right now I'm not convinced this team can make the playoffs, especially with Dallas improving its roster.  The Suns are loaded on the wings, too, so it seems like something needs to happen to balance the roster out a bit.  It goes without saying, but they need to lock Bledsoe up too.  The market is dwindling for him, and I'd love to see the Suns sign him for less than a max, but I'd hate to see Bledsoe's relationship with the Suns sour over the negotiation process.


Bright Siders, what do you think?

We talked about things....

This week Dave and Kris try to overcome the evils of technology with round two of the 59th episode of the Phoenix Suns Podcast. Did you catch all that?

In the episode we kick things off reviewing the comments and departure of Channing Frye from the two local interviews he did with the Arizona Republic and 620 Radio. Then we look at all the recent free-agency news from the Suns over the past week with Isaiah Thomas, Anthony Tolliver, and now the "32 Million Dollar" drama with the team and Eric Bledsoe.

Listen Here: Phoenix Suns Podcast Episode 59

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Sorry Sacramento Kings fans, but when the jokes are this easy they just happen. We did not intend for this. No Kings were hurt in the recording of this podcast... Well, maybe hurt feelings.

My first day at Las Vegas Summer League involved catching at least some parts of 7 of the 8 games played between Thomas and Mack Center (UNLV Basketball's court and Cox Pavilion (the smaller venue just adjacent).

I admit that much of the time I was buried in the laptop, reporting on Randolph and Bledsoe, but I did catch enough of the action to make some observations.

Here are some of the players that made an impression on me today:

  • Noah Vonleh had a very forgettable day, racking up his limit of 6 fouls in only 17 minutes and not making a big impact when he was out there. Vonleh looks raw and unsure what to do on offense. Basically, he looks 18.
  • P.J. Hairston shot the heck out the ball, never fearing from taking a long shot not matter how contested. Today, he connected on a lot - getting 21 points on 8 of 16 shooting.
  • Dante Exum, also 18, looked better than his stat line showed (5 points, 2 assists, 0 rebounds). He looks like a player for sure. He's tall and lanky, but smooth with the ball. He played point most of the game, with Trey Burke off the ball. Not sure if that will continue in the regular season, but I doubt it. Burke is a better point guard at this time. Exum looks talented, but he still doesn't really know how to play the game.
  • Rudy Gobert (my #10 pick in the SB Nation Mock Draft last year) looked good in his minutes. He's long, smooth and can pass the rock better than you'd expect. He can also inhale rebounds and score at the basket. He scored 12 points and pulled down 6 rebounds in only 18 minutes because he racked up 5 fouls.
  • Rodney Hood, with 19 points and 5 rebounds, played well but I didn't notice him much so he wasn't that kind of stand out player.
  • I only caught a few minutes of Adreian Payne but he looked exactly as I expected - active on the court, and deadly from deep (3 for 5 on 3s) for 19 points, but he only grabbed 3 rebounds. He moves well on the court and will fit in the Atlanta rotation very well. The Hawks were #2 in the league three pointers taken per possession, just ahead of the Suns.
  • Walter Tavares, 7'3", is as huge as you'd think. He made an impact on the game with his size in the paint, scoring 8 points and grabbing 6 rebounds in limited minutes.
  • Andrew Wiggins is a true talent in this league. He stands out from everyone with his size and athleticism and shwag. He just looks the part. Today, he drove, drove and drove some more, drawing 20 free throws (making 15) on the day. He made some nice passes that his teammates didn't convert into scores, and grabbed five rebounds as well. On the other end, like many stars today, he committed several fouls (4) and turnovers (4). After the game, Wiggins was not made available for interviews even though he was supposed to be. Maybe it had to do with rumors. I dunno.
  • Anthony Bennett looked better today than I thought he would, but he still didn't have a big impact despite being one of the largest guys on the court. He scored 11 points and pulled down 6 rebounds, but committed 5 fouls and 3 turnovers as the Cavs lost.
  • Doug McDermott - For much of the first half, Doug acted as a decoy by just running to the corner/angle three point line on the weak side as the action (mostly through Tony Snell) ran on the other side. On the defensive end, he was occasionally targeted but held his own okay. His best sequence was a double block on a guy driving on him, followed by a long three at the other end within seconds. McBuckets indeed. To put the two blocks in context, Doug had 6 total in his last two years of college (per a tweet I saw. Don't kill me if I'm wrong, Jacob!). McD finished with 11 points, 2 blocks, 5 rebounds, 4 turnovers and 5 fouls.
  • Nerlens Noel - his kid is definitely athletic. He guarded the paint with persistence, often leaving his man early to contest the drive. He can sky, showing that he has not lost any athleticism from the injury last year (or, it means he was THAT much more athletic than most everyone here). However, I still can't get over how loose his joints are. Arms and legs just moving every which way. When he went down (to what turned out to be an ankle twist), the replay showed his knees buckling this way and that and that DIDN'T EVEN PHASE HIM. Meaning, they are bendy all the time. Meaning, he's got to worry about someone falling on him. Meaning, I can see why the Suns docs passed on him, despite his talent.

SummerSuns tomorrow

The Suns play their final SL game tomorrow, a welcome respite for a team that played 4 games in 5 days and came up short against the trees of Minnesota.

I'll be at the game tomorrow and will provide coverage like a normal game day.

Hopefully, the Suns won't rest any of their guys but don't be surprised to see Miles Plumlee and/or T.J. Warren sit out. But really, why would they sit? They don't have any more games until October after this.

Will keep you updated throughout the day.

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