Yahoo! Sports reports that the Wolves are ready to listen to offers for Kevin Love. The Phoenix Suns want Kevin Love badly. But do they have the right assets, without giving up their entire future to acquire Love ahead of other suitors? A Top 3 pick might be what's needed to close the deal.
Yahoo! Sports busted out a rumor last night that Kevin Love has told the Minnesota Timberwolves that he will test free agency next summer, so they'd better trade him now if they don't want to lose him for nothing.
"For the first time, [Saunders] sounds like looking at deals for [Love] is an option," one rival executive told Yahoo Sports.
The Boston Celtics, Golden State Warriors, Los Angeles Lakers and Phoenix Suns are among many teams determined to make hard runs at trades for Love, league sources said. Boston and Los Angeles plan to make high-lottery picks in the 2014 NBA Draft available in offers for Love, sources said.
No team is likely to trade for Love without an assurance that he'll commit to a five-year, $100 million maximum contract extension. Despite a belief that Love prefers Los Angeles or New York as a potential destination, he's open to deals in other markets where he can be part of an immediate contender, sources said.
Of course, you need to consider this rumor from "one rival executive" in context. There's only 4 teams left playing games right now, so the rumor mill is bound to pick up steam. And, it's been two days since a playoff game last aired, so the antsy rumor-clicking fingers are getting itchy.
For Suns fans, the question is whether the Suns can offer enough to entice the trade without offering too much to leave the cupboard bare if Love leaves for a different team next year.
The Celtics and Lakers can both offer high first round picks this season. The best the Suns can do is #14. at the moment. The Suns have a deep trove of assets, but no gleaming jewel on top.
If you're sure Love won't leave the Suns, remember that the Suns have not made the playoffs since 2010 and all it takes is an injury or two to miss the playoffs again in 2015. If Love doesn't love the Suns, he could easily leave next summer.
A cautionary tale to giving up tons of assets for Kevin Love is that he might leave in 12 months. If your prize acquisition leaves just a year after acquiring him, you've gambled and lost.
Four teams participated in a very complicated Dwight Howard deal in 2012. Why? Because it's really hard to evaluate trade value for a player (or players) who are at All-Star level but are set for free agency just a year later.
The Lakers gave up Andrew Bynum and their 2017 #1 pick. In the near term, they gave up a young, All-Star talent who would likely have stayed in LA his whole career (Bynum) in exchange for a guy who could easily walk in a year. In the long term, they gave up what now looks a lot like a lottery pick in 2017, and (with the Nash trade) gave away any chance to trade a #1 pick until 2019. The trade netted them 1 playoff round and a bleak future. Disaster.
The Sixers gave up Andre Iguodala, Moe Harkless and Nikola Vucevic for Bynum, who hardly played and then left in free agency. The traded netted them 60 losses a year and no end to those losses in sight. Disaster.
The Nuggets gave up two first round picks and some salary fodder in exchange for one year of Andre Iguodala. On the surface, not a lot for a potential All-Star. But Iggy left after a year, and the Nuggets have only Randy Foye to show for it. The Nuggets played horrible this season, and now only get a #1 pick thanks to the Melo heist of 2012. Disaster.
Orlando is the only team still with assets from the Howard trade, yet two years later they are still looking to replace Howard and don't have a playoff berth in sight.
Four teams. All four in the lotto two seasons later. Three of them acquired a guy who could be a free agent a year later, and all three guys left for another team. All three.
The Suns cannot afford to give up a majority of their assets in exchange for (potentially) one year of Kevin Love. Any number of things can go wrong, leaving the Suns with nothing next summer.
Luckily for the Suns, they have a full cupboard of assets. Full enough that any one trade likely won't devastate them. But the lure of Love cannot blind the team to having a backup plan in case he leaves in a year.
Phoenix Suns asset list:
*If the Wolves rebuild, kiss that 6th #1 pick goodbye since goes away in 2016 unless the Wolves finish 9th or better in the West in 2015 or 2016. A rebuild likely kills that plan.
The Wolves likely won't want anyone who could leave in a year, and probably don't want Bledsoe either because they have Rubio up for a contract in a year. Acquiring Bledsoe could make Rubio leave too, which would be double-disaster.
Let's just say the Wolves are ready to rebuild, and would take (for grins) the Morrii and their three best first round picks between the 2014 and 2015 drafts. That would leave the Suns with a cupboard of youth down to just Alex Len, Archie Goodwin and their own late first rounders in the coming years.
Not devastating to the Suns if Love leaves them in a year, but that package is still pretty light for a player of Love's talent.
I just don't see the Wolves taking two bench players (the Morrii) and three #1 picks with only one of them (the Lakers' in 2015) likely higher than #14.
The editor of Canishoopus, our sister site on SB Nation, agrees via email this morning:
The Suns are an outside possibility, but I don't think it works for the reasons you state. More specifically, you guys won too much this year. The Wolves are going to want a mid-high lottery pick involved, which you don't have. The other thing they would want is a high quality wing player and/or a Love replacement. You guys have some pieces, but probably not the right ones.
What else can the Suns offer, without having to rope in a third team?
How about a freebie. If the Suns win the lotto on Tuesday night - a 1.8% chance to get a Top-3 pick - suddenly the Suns' assets look a lot more valuable.
I'm guessing that a Top-3 pick trumps all the other Suns assets, making a trade feasible without giving up the farm. If the Suns can offer a Top 3 pick, then maybe the Wolves bite on that plus the Lakers' 2015 and a Morris or two.
But then again, is one year of Kevin Love worth giving up four+ years of Noah Vonleh or Andrew Wiggins or Julius Randle or Joel Embiid?
The dream continues as the league's best set of twins will represent their team at the NBA Draft Lottery on Tuesday, May 20 on ESPN.
The Phoenix Suns have only a 1.8% chance to move into the Top 3 of the best Draft in years, the worst odds among all non-playoff teams. The Suns won 48 games last season, the most wins ever by a non-playoff team since the league went to a 16-team format (tied with Golden State, 2008).
Showing up at the Lottery in New York City seems just a formality, but you have to show up just in case. In 1993, the Orlando Magic had just a 1 in 66 chance (1.5% chance) of getting the #1 pick but got it anyway. Other than that, no one with the worst odds has jumped that high since the weighted lottery system was implemented 24 years ago. And even since then, the league made the worst odds three times worse (from 1-in-66 to 5-in-1000).
But as Lloyd Christmas puts it, "So you're saying there's a chance?"
Yes, Lloyd, there's a chance the Suns will get the #1 overall pick (0.5%) or at least a Top-3 pick (1.82%).
If the Suns do get a top-3 pick this season, they will STILL have the #14 along with #18 and #27 because the Minnesota Timberwolves would drop to 14th (unless they too win a top-3 pick) and convey the pick to the Suns, giving the Suns four first round picks this season.
The Suns are trying to double up their luck this year by sending the Morris twins to represent the Suns in the lotto room and on the dais. Markieff Morris and Marcus Morris will (hopefully) wear the same exact suit and share the same chair behind the Suns podium.
The Morrii are intimidating, so maybe they can scare the ping pong balls into coming up in the Suns' favor. Watch out for reports of Markieff getting his 13th technical for staring down the ping pong machine while his brother has his back.
The Suns could use some luck. They lost the coin flip for Lew Alcindor (later Kareem Abdul Jabbar), getting the servicable Neal Walk instead. They also got screwed in 2007, when the Hawks jumped up from giving the Suns the #6 pick (could have been Joakim Noah) to keeping the #3 pick (Al Horford) after beating the odds to move up.
The Suns have been in the lottery 10 of the 29 seasons there's been a lottery system, and moved up twice: moving from No. 7 to No. 6 in 1986 (selected William Bedford) and moving from No. 5 to No. 2 in 1987 (selected Armon Gilliam).
Ok, reading that again it appears the Suns have done okay in the luck department. But that Alcindor coin flip and the Hawks catastrophe has Suns fans feeling screwed over in the lottery.
Let's go Suns!
Today was day two of the NBA Draft Combine, and the players went through various athletic testing including vertical jump and lane agility. Here's what happened.
Today the players at the NBA Draft Combine went from showcasing their physical measurements to displaying their athleticism...or lack thereof.
For a full list of all the athletic testing numbers, go here.
Now that we have all or most of the measurables and athletic testing results for the players in attendance, we can take a look at some of the players who helped their stock over the past two days, and why.
Not only did Vonleh measure out as one of the best power forwards in the draft physically, athletically, he graded out near the top as well. Vonleh posted the third best max vertical among power forwards and centers at 37". Combine that with his 7'4.25" wingspan, his 9'0" standing reach, and his enormous hands that measure 11.75" wide...and you are looking at an extremely high ceiling for a post player. In addition, Noah is one of the best shooting big men in the draft as well...hitting .485 of his three point attempts at Indiana last season. Vonleh was already considered to be a top-10 pick, but with his combine performance, he may find himself in the top 5 as long as his workouts go well.
Gordon was considered a tweener by many...but he showed that he is more than capable of playing with the big boys at the Combine. Gordon came in at just under 6'9" with shoes...and he's only 18, so he may still be growing. Not only that, but his nearly 7 foot wingspan and 8'9" standing reach put him right in the upper-middle of the power forward prospects. However, his athleticism is what really sets him apart. Gordon had the single best max vertical among power forwards at 39". Not only that, he was also fist among power forwards in his lane agility time, and had the best shuttle time out of all positions at only 2.76 seconds. Very impressive numbers for Gordon.
If you've ever watched LaVine play, you already know he's super athletic...and he simply confirmed that with his results at the combine. LaVine graded out with the best overall lane agility time at 10.42, the second best overall shuttle time at 2.80, as well as the third highest overall max vertical at 41.5", and the fourth highest overall standing vertical at 33.5. When you add that to the fact that LaVine also measured out at nearly 6'6" in shoes and has a great stroke with NBA range on his shot...you can see why he has a ton of upside and potential.
Stauskas is known mostly as a lights-out shooter...but his Combine performance shows he can do more than just that. Not only did Stauskas measure in as the third tallest shooting guard in shoes at 6'6.5", he had the 5th best max vertical (35.5") and shuttle time (2.92), and the second best lane agility time among shooting guards. Stauskas will no doubt be primarily a shooter in the NBA, but these athletic results show he is very capable of defending the perimeter and staying in front of his man on the other end of the court as well.
Exum may have helped himself most by simply by showing up and letting the scouts and team representatives see his game first hand. However, it certainly doesn't hurt that he measured in at 6'6" in shoes with a 6'9.5" wingspan...which is great size for a point guard. In addition, Exum registered the second best lane agility time overall at 10.75, and the 6th best shuttle time at 2.88. His standing (31.5") and max (34.5) verticals were nothing special, but they showed that he definitely has enough lift to play above the rim...and combined with his agility and size, makes for one of best overall point guard prospects in the draft.
Others who impressed or surprised in one or more areas: Nick Johnson (41.5" max vertical, 10.80 lane agility), Patric Young (37.5" max vertical, 25 bench press reps), Doug McDermott (36.5" max verticle)
A nice little bonus during the NBA Draft Combine coverage today was an interview with the Phoenix Suns GM Ryan McDonough, who answered some questions about their plans in the coming NBA draft.
First he was asked about Aaron Gordon and what he thought about his free throw percentage, which was terrible last season at only 42%. McDonough said that he thought Gordon was a better free throw shooter than his stats would indicate, and that he has good form overall, leading him to believe it is correctable and may have been more mental than anything.
The Suns GM went on to once again allude to the fact that the Suns will be looking to either move up in the draft, or trade draft picks from a star player. McDonough talked about how the Suns have three draft picks this year and as many as three next year, plus rookies Alex Len and Archie Goodwin already on the team. He stated that they aren't looking to bring in as many as eight new players onto the roster, and are looking to win now...being that they were only one game removed from making the playoffs this year.
When asked if the Suns would be active on draft night..."We're going to be very active."