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If you bet the over on wins for the Phoenix Suns last season you were able to cash in on January 15th. That's three full months before the end of the regular season. Vegas whiffed. This season they have nearly doubled the Suns wins figure, but is it still too low?

21.5

That's the number VegasInsider.com slated the Suns at last season. Phoenix just barely squeaked past that number with a 48-34 record.

Vegas was Samsonite way off.

Obviously the lines aren't always set at the win totals the teams are expected to achieve. These aren't predictions. They're lines set to encourage betting on both sides of the number.

Still... 21.5?

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I'll own it.

Even if I didn't mention it I know that the puppet gallery would. When I decided to write this I told Dave it was probably apropos that it came from me considering my role of doom merchant last season. I thought the team would get off to an abhorrent start and a fire sale would ensure, stripping the team of any remaining short term assets before the trade deadline. With the prospect of the season unraveling I went with the worst case scenario, which actually had a silver lining.

Despite my pessimistic broadcast for the season, I also augured that the Suns would strike lottery gold and gain their first ever #1 overall pick. Basically, I always look for the good out of every bad situation. It's kind of my thing.

My prognosticative prowess was sorely lacking. I should have listened to everybody who thought the Suns were easily a 40+ win team that would fight for a playoff spot. Or at least everybody who had them winning 20-something games. I could have avoided some good-natured (I think?) ridicule.

Instead I went with 16-66. The reason I picked that exact number? Because it was the team's record in it's inaugural campaign... a season of misery that it seemed would be appropriately matched. I thought the Suns were going to hit rock bottom.

I was wrong.

42.5

That's the new over/under on the Phoenix Suns for the 2014-15 season.

Being the eternal optimist that I am, the first thing that occurred to me was this seemed a little bit low. I'll save my final laughably incoherent prediction for right before the season, a lot of things can change between now and then, but to be candid... a two digit number with a 5 in the left hand column had been tumbling around my head.

I can definitely see a scenario unfold where the team improves on its record from last season. The team made a big upgrade in the backcourt. Chemistry and camaraderie seem to be huge strengths. There's a very familial atmosphere enveloping the team, probably because damn near everyone is related now, unlike the noxious miasma from a couple years ago. Hornacek has had a chance to cut his teeth (or insert your favorite Babbyism). Nearly all of the main components are in or entering their prime.

If the team can stay relatively healthy, why couldn't they leave this new number in the dust? The new campaign will hopefully bring a whole lot more Eric Bledsoe and Alex Len than last season. Plus, the suggestions of salient improvement from the Suns bigs don't really seem like platitudes or white noise after those same types of remarks were all validated last year.

Really? A .500 team? Bordering on being in the 30's?

I'm taking the over.

8

That's how many teams Vegas has ahead of the Suns.

1. Oklahoma City Thunder 57.5

2. San Antonio Spurs 56.5

3. Los Angeles Clippers 55.5

4. Golden St. Warriors 50.5

5. Dallas Mavericks 49.5

6. Houston Rockets 49.5

7. Memphis Grizzlies 48.5

8. Portland Trail Blazers 48.5

Shockingly, they are the exact same eight that finished ahead of the Suns last season. Way to think outside the box.

I'll be previewing these teams in depth before the regular season begins, so at that point I'll give some more insight into which of these teams might actually be vulnerable. For now I'll just offer that it seems like pretty specious logic to just gift the same teams all eight spots. Almost surely, at least one of those teams will slip behind an improving team climbing into the picture. Yes, they're betting lines, not necessarily predictions, but do all of those teams really look 6+ wins better than the Suns?

What are your thoughts? High? Low? About right?

Get them in below. It's not time to hold anyone to predictions quite yet, but it's about time to start mulling over this topic... if you're into this type of thing.

Also, I think this qualifies as an optimistic post... which means I get nine the other way to dispense at my discretion.

Former teammate DeMarcus Cousins is taking potshots at new Suns point guard Isaiah Thomas. That's nothing new to the diminutive Thomas.

New Phoenix Suns point guard Isaiah Thomas, part of a triumvirate of what is potentially the league's best back court, is in a place of transition this season.

He sees himself as one of the best players in the NBA, and in terms of statistical measures he played that way last year for the Sacramento Kings. Thomas was one of just six NBA players to put up 20 points and 6 assists per game. He is a starting-quality point guard whose 28-54 Kings team struggled as a whole but outplayed their competition when Thomas took the floor.

Yet while one of those players, Kyrie Irving, got a $90 million extension this summer and three others are already "max" players, Thomas was shown the exit door. The Kings replaced him with a career journeyman, Darren Collison, who is barely bigger than the 5'9" Thomas but has been lauded for his passing and defensive skills.

And now DeMarcus Cousins is taking pot shots at Thomas' back.

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With friends like Cousins, who needs enemies?

Cousins also said yesterday he loves new teammate Ryan Hollins' intensity. If you recall, Hollins was the guy who flagrantly fouled Goran Dragic at the end of a Clipper blowout a couple of years ago.

So it's possible that Cousins, who wants to cut down his flagrant fouls this year, isn't on the same level as Ryan McDonough in terms of player evaluation.

But still, it's not just Cousins who wanted Thomas gone from Sacramento. Thomas said this summer the Kings never called him once the season ended. And when they signed Darren Collison to replace him, he already knew it was over.

Then the Phoenix Suns came into the picture. They rolled out the red carpet and electronic billboards and Thomas was hooked. He did not visit any other teams, and signed a 4 year, $27 million contract over the weekend.

"They brought me in for who I was," Thomas said at the press conference in July. "They like me for being 5'9". They like me for being a score first point guard. And that's what I wanted. It's perfect for me with the style of play, the organization the way it is. I just want to be part of something like that."

After struggling to make the NBA at all (he was the last pick of the 2010 draft) and then failing to earn a commitment from the team that drafted him, Thomas now comes to Phoenix high on hope but weighted down by uncertainty. Again.

That's because he's once again coming into an NBA season as a sixth man. The Suns re-signed Eric Bledsoe to a $70 million contract last week, and plan to re-sign Goran Dragic to (likely) even more money next summer.

That's a lot more than $27 million.

Thomas signed with the Suns with full knowledge that they wanted to keep both Dragic and Bledsoe long term, and that he was not promised a starting spot. He knew all this. But with all the obstacles Thomas has faced in the NBA, you can't blame him for being a bit apprehensive about how it will work as training camp begins.

"You can be worried," he said at Media Day. "Just because you never know what's going to happen. You never see three talented guards like us on the same team. But you know that's the coach's problem. He has to play us. I am excited. I love competition. That's what it's all about - making us better and getting to the playoffs."

After four years of never being handed the reins of the Kings, he decided at the onset of free agency to commit his next four years to a team who won't promise to start him either.

Is he still sure he made the right decision?

"You could say that," he replied, after a pregnant pause. "You never know until the games really start. You don't know if you made the right decision till halfway through the season. It could all be fun and games in the off season, but you got to put it all out on the floor. Once the season starts, I'll get a feel for if I made the right decision or not. Hopefully I did. I feel like I have. I put it in god's hands."

All the reasons Thomas signed with the Suns are still there today. He wanted to be wanted, and he wanted to play for a playoff contender.

The Suns love Thomas for who he is - which is a really good player wrapped up in a slightly undersized package.

"Isaiah is a guy who has been extremely efficient," Suns GM Ryan McDonough told Bright Side at Media Day. "He's a guy we were always scared of when we were playing against Sacramento. We preferred it when he was on the bench rather than on the court. He'd come in and he'd just change the game. At 5'9" he doesn't look the part, but he's just so efficient. He's a self made player. Nothing was ever given to Isaiah, he's earned this every step of the way. There are only a handful of guys in this league who averaged 20 points and six assists a game and to do that as efficiently as he did is impressive."

While many are skeptical about Thomas being a legitimate starting point guard for a playoff team, the Suns just want to bring in as many talented players as they can. And they see Thomas as one of the best players on a team that will fight for the playoffs this season.

Coach Hornacek knows there's a bit of concern among the guys, but he worked that out last year and should work just fine again this year.

"We talked about it," Hornacek told Bright Side in July when the Suns signed Thomas. "We talked about how it was going to affect peoples' minutes, how we would play it. But again we still go into training camp with the guys that are here and are going to play. We feel it just gives us another weapon if something happens with Eric or Goran with injury, and not lose a beat."

Thomas will be the Suns lightning rod off the bench, a potential Sixth Man of the Year candidate. And if anyone goes down to injury again this year, Thomas can step right in to fill their shoes. Remember, the Suns only got 43 games of the Slash Brothers last year.

Thomas knows he's in a better situation than he ever was in Sacramento. The front office loves him here. The coach wants him. And the teammates have a better approach to the game.

"We did have a talented group of guys in Sacramento," Thomas said at Media Day. "It just didn't click. But playing against these guys (the Suns) four times a year, seeing that there's really no arguments on the floor. I always say these guys play for each other, not against each other. The team that plays for each other, they will run through a wall for you."

Or, a Swaggy P anyway.

Isaiah Thomas might not start many games this year. And he might not finish many either.

But make no mistake, if Thomas buys into the family atmosphere and commits to his role off the bench, he will be one of the reasons the Suns can make the playoffs this year.

Warning: Top Heavy Equipment...

As the season draws closer and closer it is time to take a look at the teams most intimately involved in the success of the Phoenix Suns; their division rivals.

Last season the Los Angeles Clippers took the Pacific Division and ran with that success all the way to the Western Conference Semifinals. They fell short there, but have championship aspirations this year. Overall the Clippers and the Suns had a fun season series in 2013-2014 despite it being one sided in the win column (Clippers 3-1) all the games were entertaining. The Suns lost three games by single digits and gave the Clippers their worst home loss of the season in the sole win.

How do the teams match-up this season? Did the Clippers get better this off-season? Does Blake Griffin need to be the Clippers best player for them to contend for a championship? What is the biggest match-up or the x-factors in this series?  We break it all down with Adithya of Clips Nation...

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